ajigeucun 发表于 2012-5-30 20:04

这炮 放在 2战 啥 水平??

这些是“谢尔曼”级“赫尔”号驱逐舰(DD-945USS Hull)作为试验舰在20世纪70年代试验MK71单管203毫米大口径轻量炮(MCLG)的照片。

ajigeucun 发表于 2012-5-30 20:08

After the retirement of the last of the World War II Baltimore and Cleveland class cruisers in the 1970s, the only ship-based shore-bombardment weapon remaining in the USN was the 5"/54 (12.7 cm) gun.This weapon was out-ranged by existing Soviet coast defense guns and its projectiles were incapable of destroying hardened bunkers.With the Navy's concentration on carrier task forces, it was also apparent that there would not be any future surface-warfare ships large enough to carry multiple heavy weapons.These developments were quite worrisome to those planners charged with ensuring the success of amphibious assaults.
The Major Caliber Light Weight Gun (MCLWG) program was an ambitious attempt at solving these problems.The goal of this program was to produce a larger-caliber gun capable of supporting amphibious landings yet still light enough to fit even on destroyer-size ships.The weapon was originally intended to be an adaptation of the Army's 175 mm (6.9") artillery gun, but the 8" (20.3 cm) caliber was selected during the initial evaluation testing in the early 1970's.The projectiles planned for the new weapon were to combine a large explosive charge together with long range and high accuracy through laser guidance and thus were to be able to attack even small targets such as individual bunkers.To make this weapon widely available throughout the fleet, plans were made to mount it on many of the proposed DX, DXG and CSGN designs of the 1970s, which ultimately became the Spruance (DD-963) class destroyers and Ticonderoga (CG-47) class cruisers (see Mount / Turret Notes below for details).

Although the prototype was successful, the program was cancelled in 1978 as a result of budget considerations during the defense cutbacks of the late 1970s.

The chamber of this weapon was designed to be able to handle a 10-11 caliber projectile.One of the proposed munitions was an extended range guided round that would have been around 90 inches (229 cm) long.

As the USN test ship for this weapon from 1975 to 1979, the USS Hull (DD-945) was the only destroyer ever to mount an 8" (20.3 cm) cannon.The mount was removed from the USS Hull in 1979 and is now at the Naval Surface Warfare Center in Dahlgren, Virginia.

The gun barrel for the Mark 71 was the Mark 28 Mod 1, a 55 caliber two-piece loose liner barrel.The production gun mount was to have used a one piece monobloc barrel designated the Mark 32.

ajigeucun 发表于 2012-5-30 20:08

http://www.warships.com.cn/navweaps/WNUS_8-55_mk71.htm

铁公爵 发表于 2012-5-31 09:08

才1门炮不给力

ajigeucun 发表于 2012-5-31 10:36

铁公爵 发表于 2012-5-31 09:08 static/image/common/back.gif
才1门炮不给力

高射速啊 一分钟12发

badcat009 发表于 2012-5-31 14:41

12发/分
弄个三座三联的,12*9=108
一分钟108发炮弹往敌舰或者陆地目标的脑袋上飞,203mm也受不了啊

铁公爵 发表于 2012-6-1 08:42

ajigeucun 发表于 2012-5-31 10:36 static/image/common/back.gif
高射速啊 一分钟12发

没有AP弹,打海战比较尴尬

badcat009 发表于 2012-6-12 01:36

铁公爵 发表于 2012-6-1 08:42 static/image/common/back.gif
没有AP弹,打海战比较尴尬

这放到二战如果没有AP弹那就是纯纯的洗甲板炮,而且估计洗的会很干净,单门可能效果不大,但是比如一艘重巡上放个8-10门的话。。。41度角能打到接近3W米。。我觉得挺恐怖的

铁公爵 发表于 2012-6-12 09:08

badcat009 发表于 2012-6-12 01:36 static/image/common/back.gif
这放到二战如果没有AP弹那就是纯纯的洗甲板炮,而且估计洗的会很干净,单门可能效果不大,但是比如一艘重 ...

对重型舰艇来说伤不了筋骨,沉不了

斯佩伯爵 发表于 2012-6-12 09:10

铁公爵 发表于 2012-6-12 09:08 static/image/common/back.gif
对重型舰艇来说伤不了筋骨,沉不了

上层建筑打烂掉,蚁多咬死象!

levin845 发表于 2012-6-12 09:26

本帖最后由 levin845 于 2012-6-12 09:28 编辑

弄个重巡,装上十门这玩意,副炮也整成类似的速射炮,两万米开外洗甲板,把测距仪、雷达、防空炮之类的都洗掉之后就算船体完好主炮完好战斗力也大减了。我方飞机、BB上来直接捡现成的就行了。

不过这货费炮弹啊,要专门跟艘补给船……

hleq2015 发表于 2016-6-7 14:16

其实这玩意最大的优势不是体积么?牺牲一点仰角说不定能和双联5' DP1:1换装了,而火力投送量相当于三联装203

死神之炮 发表于 2016-6-8 18:10

这炮放到二战啊,估计只有得梅因打得过

TankTale 发表于 2016-6-18 01:10

这门炮也要配合七十年代的雷达火控才能玩好。如果火控水平相当,感觉会被对面AP打得叫爸爸啊。

steinberg2006 发表于 2016-6-18 11:32

MK16舰炮,美国海军第一种采用自动装弹机的舰炮,火炮俯仰和旋转都是电力驱动,可以在任意角度装弹。火炮单重17.14吨,射速每分钟10发,最大射程30250米,单门火炮的弹药倾泻量为13.5吨/分钟,在使用高速穿甲弹时可在26公里距离上穿透102毫米的装甲。三联炮塔,安装了自动装弹机和更厚的装甲,每个炮塔重达451吨。这种性能出色的203毫米舰炮只装备了德梅因级,好炮配好舰。

落日熔金 发表于 2016-11-2 09:50

每分钟10发,每分钟投射量13.5吨,那就是一发炮弹1.35吨.8寸炮!?

skysword2000 发表于 2016-12-9 21:03

记得在讨论FLAK40 128mm防空炮时,有个捷克网站上贴出了德国人后面一系列150和240mm防空炮,其中一款240mm/L65的射速有7发/分,弹重约200kg了,都是金属莱茵的设计。曾有朋友YY说,用这种240/L65替代德意志级的280/L52和希佩尔的203/L60,可以痛殴牛牛的CA和CL了,跟着首相一起出击,专业负责洗甲板。而且可以刺激邱胖子出他的234炮、2W2吨级超级CA。
貌似我有点不理解英国人,条约前他家装巡全是234炮,非要把条约CA降到203,为啥不定成1W5吨,234口径炮呢,条约结束时,还非要带头在BB上14寸炮,想拖人下水,最后就把自己拖下了水。战后家里一堆120和102炮,又开发出一个居中的114,这是坚持带头创新?

星莹郡主 发表于 2016-12-24 14:34

skysword2000 发表于 2016-12-9 21:03
记得在讨论FLAK40 128mm防空炮时,有个捷克网站上贴出了德国人后面一系列150和240mm防空炮,其中一款240mm/ ...

240毫米炮一分钟7发?怎么做到的?跟德梅因差不多吗?

talon 发表于 2017-7-18 20:20

这炮70年代老美都没把振动问题解决,要放到二战估计也是烂尾,不过光性能来说,这要是给重巡装备上,基本对面的非装甲目标要玩完
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