1940年的"battleship of the future"

lse 发表于 2012-9-24 22:39

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8156/7518833130_112ed01aff_k.jpg
70000T
252000hp,6軸
18x 14" Gun

seven_nana 发表于 2012-9-24 22:59

那个设在舷侧的两用排气管，干啥用的？能当TDS用？没看明白

另外一艘船用3种不同的主炮炮塔，4联3联2联都有，真扯淡啊

f451 发表于 2012-9-24 23:07

说不出的感觉，是在可惜么。。。

f451 发表于 2012-9-24 23:14

烟道TDS设计听巧妙的，但是有啥用么。。。没看出能节省重量啊，虽然考虑到海水倒灌而设计成折线型，还是感觉不靠谱啊{:07:}

zbzb 发表于 2012-9-25 04:05

为什么偶只看到红叉叉！

Zichuan 发表于 2012-9-25 07:17

seven_nana 发表于 2012-9-24 09:59 static/image/common/back.gif
那个设在舷侧的两用排气管，干啥用的？能当TDS用？没看明白

另外一艘船用3种不同的主炮炮塔，4联3联2联都 ...

类似于日本的勺型艏，看那个意思是说，鱼雷打到那去会被引导着从舰底划过。。。。好扯淡啊。。。

hsz225 发表于 2012-9-25 09:16

只想到两个字来形容 “摩登”
{:20:}

kimgo 发表于 2012-9-25 09:42

对于大型战列舰而言，主炮塔采用不同的联装形式不是设计上的难点，没有哪个国家在这方面头疼--除非早期摸索阶段。成本上也不多几个钱，反正这么大的主炮系统没几个谈得上批量概念，基本上算是不同组合设计而已。选择在战术理念、船体设计，不是技术问题。

superslyph 发表于 2012-9-25 13:32

这就是传说中的“然后……就没有然后”了吗？

Henschel 发表于 2012-9-25 17:32

舰体尾部排烟。。。。。这不是被否定的技术吗。。。。

saibaby 发表于 2012-9-25 18:25

第3层的那座2连取消了吧。
把仲部的那个换成4联

zhoufengt 发表于 2012-9-25 23:29

削减主炮和主炮塔数量，增大主炮口径会比较好。
70000吨的排水量才配14英寸的主炮太浪费了，主炮最少也要>16英寸。

lse 发表于 2012-9-26 03:36

下面小圖的船較合理

鸿蒙教主 发表于 2012-9-26 23:57

楼主阁下...为什么是红叉叉...

lse 发表于 2012-9-27 00:12

鸿蒙教主发表于 2012-9-26 23:57 static/image/common/back.gif
楼主阁下...为什么是红叉叉...

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lse 发表于 2012-9-27 00:31

1940年的battleship of the future(白痴verison)

http://www.warships.com.cn/thread-3924-1-1.html

1940年的"battleship of the future", United Kingom Battleship laid down 1940

Displacement:
69,719 t light; 73,241 t standard; 75,916 t normal; 78,057 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(995.00 ft / 984.25 ft) x 131.23 ft x (36.09 / 36.90 ft)
(303.28 m / 300.00 m) x 40.00 mx (11.00 / 11.25 m)

Armament:
   20 - 14.02" / 356 mm 55.0 cal guns - 1,485.94lbs / 674.01kg shells, 90 per gun
   Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
   4 x Quad mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
   2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 double raised mounts
   24 - 5.12" / 130 mm 55.0 cal guns - 72.36lbs / 32.82kg shells, 300 per gun
   Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
   12 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
   16 - 4.72" / 120 mm 55.0 cal guns - 56.91lbs / 25.81kg shells, 450 per gun
   Anti-air guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
   8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 32,366 lbs / 14,681 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 14.2" / 360 mm 639.76 ft / 195.00 m 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
   Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
4.92" / 125 mm 639.76 ft / 195.00 m 33.14 ft / 10.10 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 111.55 ft / 34.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 16.5" / 420 mm 6.89" / 175 mm 12.8" / 325 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.97" / 50 mm

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 6.89" / 175 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 259,766 shp / 193,785 Kw = 31.95 kts
Range 14,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,816 tons

Complement:
2,286 - 2,972

Cost:
£42.649 million / $170.597 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 6,946 tons, 9.1 %
   - Guns: 6,946 tons, 9.1 %
Armour: 26,606 tons, 35.0 %
   - Belts: 6,971 tons, 9.2 %
   - Torpedo bulkhead: 3,860 tons, 5.1 %
   - Armament: 6,169 tons, 8.1 %
   - Armour Deck: 9,606 tons, 12.7 %
Machinery: 6,946 tons, 9.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 29,222 tons, 38.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,197 tons, 8.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
   93,747 lbs / 42,523 Kg = 68.1 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 17.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 9.5 ft / 2.9 m
Roll period: 17.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 45 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 0.79

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
   a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.570 / 0.573
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 31.37 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
   - Forecastle: 20.00 %,29.53 ft / 9.00 m,22.97 ft / 7.00 m
   - Forward deck: 30.00 %,22.97 ft / 7.00 m,19.69 ft / 6.00 m
   - Aft deck: 35.00 %,19.69 ft / 6.00 m,19.69 ft / 6.00 m
   - Quarter deck: 15.00 %,19.69 ft / 6.00 m,19.69 ft / 6.00 m
   - Average freeboard: 21.36 ft / 6.51 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.5 %
Waterplane Area: 91,852 Square feet or 8,533 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 298 lbs/sq ft or 1,454 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.22
- Longitudinal: 0.98
- Overall: 1.03
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Warning: Armour too thick for type - 3rd Battery

小胡子 发表于 2012-9-27 10:18

以后这样的纯SPS内容尽量少发

lse 发表于 2012-9-27 19:54

小胡子发表于 2012-9-27 10:18 static/image/common/back.gif
以后这样的纯SPS内容尽量少发

Sorry

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