手绘草图第二弹（也是架空）
架空些十九世纪末的船 好内容，楼主打算以此风格来画舰吗？:o :lol楼主凶猛啊 当年在下也喜欢这样画 下面写好数据 回复 小胡子 的帖子电脑绘图一直掌握不好，只好手绘:L，这些是无聊的时候随手画的:lol 回复 xiaoyu2142as 的帖子
这些数据都是sps之后写上的:lol 回复 go229 的帖子
劳烦帮我刚画的舰给SPS一番:lol
舰艏一门维克斯254mm，火炮炮塔正面、侧面和基座装甲厚203mm；舰尾并列两座阿姆斯特朗120mm炮；4门维克斯75mm高炮
蒸汽往复机驱动，最大航速12节，续航力3000海里/10节。
装甲司令塔厚203mm，钢木混合结构航海舰桥下面的那座装甲甲板室厚102mm（长度就到舱门的后面），穹甲厚度50mm。
帮我测算一下1300吨排水量能不能拿下来:P？
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这些炮要多大倍径？备弹多少？ 回复 go229 的帖子
254mm炮采用维克斯给沙俄刘2爷配的L-50身管，备弹200发就行了
120mm快炮采用阿姆斯特朗的L-45身管，单门炮备弹400发
75mm高炮就无所谓了，备弹400发一门吧
在考虑装甲甲板室要不要102mm那么厚...........76mm就差不多了
go229 发表于 2010-12-20 15:17 static/image/common/back.gif
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这些炮要多大倍径？备弹多少？
注意，采用宽体设计，甲板面以下不设居住舱，看看吃水能控制在多深，考虑到兼顾沿海与内河作战 回复 小胡子 的帖子
:lol好，这就弄去 回复 小胡子 的帖子
1300怕是费劲，至少得1350到1400这个样子。 回复 小胡子 的帖子
另外，推荐柴油机。 go229 发表于 2010-12-20 16:15 static/image/common/back.gif
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1300怕是费劲，至少得1350到1400这个样子。
排水量不是啥大问题，关键是吃水深度看能有多少？能否控制在2米以内？沿船舷采用小分舱布局，不设水线装甲带的。
柴油机可行，看看功率需多大？2400马力够不够？
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胡子级浅水重炮舰, 没准是波兰 浅水重炮舰 laid down 1920
DESIGN FAILURE: Overall load weight too much for hull
Displacement:
1,260 t light; 1,383 t standard; 1,473 t normal; 1,545 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(328.08 ft / 328.08 ft) x 82.02 ft x (5.25 / 5.40 ft)
(100.00 m / 100.00 m) x 25.00 mx (1.60 / 1.65 m)
Armament:
1 - 10.00" / 254 mm 50.0 cal gun - 529.32lbs / 240.10kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1905 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 53.17lbs / 24.12kg shells, 400 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 400 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
Weight of broadside 688 lbs / 312 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.99" / 203 mm 7.99" / 203 mm 7.99" / 203 mm
2nd: 3.94" / 100 mm - -
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2.99" / 76 mm, Aft 1.18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 1,088 ihp / 811 Kw = 12.00 kts
Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 162 tons
Complement:
118 - 154
Cost:
£0.288 million / $1.153 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 125 tons, 8.5%
- Guns: 125 tons, 8.5%
Armour: 480 tons, 32.6%
- Armament: 121 tons, 8.2%
- Armour Deck: 347 tons, 23.6%
- Conning Towers: 12 tons, 0.8%
Machinery: 63 tons, 4.3%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 542 tons, 36.8%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 213 tons, 14.5%
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 3.4%
- Hull below water: 10 tons
- Hull void weights: 10 tons
- Hull above water: 10 tons
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6,391 lbs / 2,899 Kg = 12.8 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 3.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2.08
Metacentric height 11.7 ft / 3.6 m
Roll period: 10.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 0.80
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.365 / 0.372
Length to Beam Ratio: 4.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.86 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 21 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 88
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 30.00%,5.25 ft / 1.60 m,5.25 ft / 1.60 m
- Forward deck: 30.00%,13.12 ft / 4.00 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Aft deck: 10.00%,13.12 ft / 4.00 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck: 30.00%,5.25 ft / 1.60 m,5.25 ft / 1.60 m
- Average freeboard: 8.40 ft / 2.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 43.3%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 351.1%
Waterplane Area: 16,573 Square feet or 1,540 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 196 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.49
- Longitudinal: 0.60
- Overall: 0.50
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather
Warning: Calibre too large for QF, AA or DP gun - Main Battery
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这东西吃水1米6，应该能满足你的需求，如果还想更小，我能弄到1米 回复 小胡子 的帖子
1200马力都用不了:)。2400够丫跑上15节了。 回复 go229 的帖子
柴油机版本的
胡子级炮舰, 没准儿是波兰浅水重炮舰 laid down 1925
Displacement:
1,244 t light; 1,366 t standard; 1,438 t normal; 1,495 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(328.08 ft / 328.08 ft) x 82.02 ft x (4.92 / 5.04 ft)
(100.00 m / 100.00 m) x 25.00 mx (1.50 / 1.54 m)
Armament:
1 - 10.00" / 254 mm 50.0 cal gun - 529.32lbs / 240.10kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1925 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
2 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 53.17lbs / 24.12kg shells, 400 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck aft
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 400 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
Weight of broadside 688 lbs / 312 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.99" / 203 mm 7.99" / 203 mm 7.99" / 203 mm
2nd: 3.94" / 100 mm - -
3rd: 1.97" / 50 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 2.99" / 76 mm, Aft 1.18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 1,099 shp / 820 Kw = 12.00 kts
Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 128 tons
Complement:
116 - 151
Cost:
£0.274 million / $1.096 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 113 tons, 7.8%
- Guns: 113 tons, 7.8%
Armour: 484 tons, 33.6%
- Armament: 121 tons, 8.4%
- Armour Deck: 351 tons, 24.4%
- Conning Towers: 11 tons, 0.8%
Machinery: 36 tons, 2.5%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 562 tons, 39.1%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 194 tons, 13.5%
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 3.5%
- Hull below water: 10 tons
- Hull void weights: 10 tons
- Hull above water: 10 tons
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
7,158 lbs / 3,247 Kg = 14.3 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 4.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2.02
Metacentric height 11.3 ft / 3.4 m
Roll period: 10.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 0.77
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.380 / 0.386
Length to Beam Ratio: 4.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 20 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 91
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 30.00%,5.25 ft / 1.60 m,5.25 ft / 1.60 m
- Forward deck: 30.00%,13.12 ft / 4.00 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Aft deck: 10.00%,13.12 ft / 4.00 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck: 30.00%,5.25 ft / 1.60 m,5.25 ft / 1.60 m
- Average freeboard: 8.40 ft / 2.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 38.3%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 360.3%
Waterplane Area: 16,721 Square feet or 1,553 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 153%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 40 lbs/sq ft or 197 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.49
- Longitudinal: 0.60
- Overall: 0.50
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather
go229 发表于 2010-12-20 14:29 static/image/common/back.gif
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这些数据都是sps之后写上的
跟俺一样:handshake
本帖最后由 皇家方舟 于 2010-12-24 22:56 编辑
画得不错我有张。怎么样
这张如何
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呵呵，课上画的吧，不错，当年我也是这么画过来的。建议先对着画作线图临摹，逐渐熟悉军舰的细节和不同国家的风格。
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