请问北卡揍雾岛的时候,雾岛被命中9发16寸还是20发16寸?
请问北卡揍雾岛的时候,雾岛被命中9发16寸还是20发16寸?网上看到下图是怎么来的? 请自行翻阅老帖。这个图本来就是从本坛传出去的。 本帖最后由 seven_nana 于 2013-7-12 13:48 编辑
这张图片的出处:http://www.warships.com.cn/navweaps/Kirishima_Damage_Analysis.pdf
雾岛中弹数,这篇文章里提到了8发,9发,以及20发三种说法。
"What has been written about her final hours has largely been taken from a single USSBS Interrogation of Lt.Cdr. Tokuno Horishi. In this report Horishi writes that Kirishima received nine 16-inch shell hits and forty 5-inch shell hits and that Captain Iwabuchi had Kirishima scuttled. The estimate of nine major caliber hits was consistent with Admiral Lee’s estimate of eight 16-inch shell hits documented in his action report to Admiral Nimitz."
9发的说法是最出名的,出自美国审讯报告(INTERROGATION NAV NO. 33,USSBS NO. 138),这份报告中有时任雾岛号助理枪炮长的Tokuno Horishi(最终官阶为中佐)的证词,他表示雾岛号被9发16寸炮弹及40发5寸炮弹击中。
具体证词:
Q. Give a description of the battle the night of the 14th.
A. The Kirishima was again proceeding towards GUADALCANAL to support the transport landing by shelling the airfield. Our speed was about 28-30 knots. One of our destroyers turned its search light on the South Dakota and we opened fire. We think we hit the South Dakota many times, inflicting much damage. We received about 9x16" hits and about 40x5" hits. We didn't think that the South Dakota hit us at any time. However a second battleship was firing upon us. We couldn't see it because of the glare from the destroyers searchlights. Because we were hitting the South Dakota and couldn't see the second battleship, we did not shift fire. Two heavy cruisers were with us and were hit but not damaged badly. They were of the Takao class.
而坐镇华盛顿号上指挥美方战列舰编队的Willis Augustus Lee(最终官阶为中将),则在向尼米兹提出的报告中称,他估计有8发16寸弹击中了雾岛。
至于这个20发的说法,则出自时任雾岛号损管长的Shiro Hayashi(最终官阶为中佐),在雾岛号沉没之前,他画了一张战舰中弹位置示意图。而其好友Tsurukichi Ikeda(最终官阶为中佐)在离舰之时,将这些战损记录细致得抄录了下来,并在战后发表在了一本书里。
在详细的水下勘测报告出来之前,我们恐怕无从分辨这三种说法究竟谁对谁错。
另外说一下,写这份报告的美国人可能不懂日文,其中出现的几个日本人的名字,有些是按照姓-名(family name-given name)的形式写的,有些则是按照名-姓(given name-family name,即欧美的姓名写法)的形式写的。
比如Tokuno Horishi,Tokuno是姓氏,对应的汉字应该是德野,名字可能是博、弘、寛等等,对应的汉字很多,可能需要对照日文资料才能查清楚其姓名。
Shiro Hayashi,Hayashi是姓氏,对应的汉字应该是应该是林,名字可能是四郎。
Tsurukichi Ikeda,Ikeda是姓氏,对应的汉字应该是池田,名字可能是鶴吉。 北卡揍雾岛的时候
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0发{:17:} owaii 发表于 2013-7-13 16:46 static/image/common/back.gif
北卡揍雾岛的时候
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{:25:}我跟楼主说了半天华盛顿射击雾岛的命中数渊源考,原来是答非所问。。。 seven_nana 发表于 2013-7-13 17:35 static/image/common/back.gif
我跟楼主说了半天华盛顿射击雾岛的命中数渊源考,原来是答非所问。。。 ...
我是问哪个数据更可靠 zcop 发表于 2013-7-15 12:42 static/image/common/back.gif
我是问哪个数据更可靠
那你已经得到答案了,在水下勘测报告出来之前,恐怕无从分辨谁对谁错。
这份报告还有一个姐妹篇,讨论雾岛击中南达的弹数的:惊爆!南达被雾岛击中6发356mm弹!
那里面也顺带讨论了华盛顿击中雾岛的弹数的问题。 第一发的位置太凶残了,估计舰桥上的都震晕了!
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