洗甲板工 发表于 2022-2-13 12:21

无聊架空 一战高速战列舰

本帖最后由 洗甲板工 于 2022-2-13 12:21 编辑

基于英国海军初代快速战列舰的设计构思和问题
http://www.warships.com.cn/thread-7228-1-1.html
(出处: 战列舰)的讨论,战巡的装甲太薄不能上战列线,女王太慢不能跟上战巡,胡德吨位太大不经济,所以看看有没可能整出满足上面要求的全能舰:
-航速接近狮级的27节
-战列舰级主装(可以防御自己的主炮)
-标排30000吨(虎号28500)

设计的主要问题是增加主装,所以我把上装減到3寸,可以防高爆弹洗甲板就夠了,这样主装可以堆13寸,轮机舻甲板3寸,火药库5寸,再加上甲板0.5寸。
我把主炮改成Elswick 14"/45MkI, 比13.5" 提升了半挡,动力保持85000shp,速度26.5节,还跟得上战巡。
估计龙联邦会想整几艘这样的东西 {:63:}

Battlecruiser laid down 1912

Displacement:
    28,583 t light; 29,948 t standard; 32,003 t normal; 33,646 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (660.00 ft / 657.60 ft) x 96.00 ft x (30.75 / 32.02 ft)
    (201.17 m / 200.44 m) x 29.26 mx (9.37 / 9.76 m)

Armament:
      8 - 14.00" / 356 mm 46.5 cal guns - 1,595.00lbs / 723.48kg shells, 95 per gun
      Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1910 Model
      4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 4.00" / 102 mm 46.1 cal guns - 31.00lbs / 14.06kg shells, 250 per gun
      Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
      12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 13,132 lbs / 5,957 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)    Length (avg)      Height (avg)
    Main:    13.1" / 331 mm    427.40 ft / 130.27 m    13.50 ft / 4.11 m
    Ends:    1.50" / 38 mm    230.15 ft / 70.15 m    6.50 ft / 1.98 m
    Upper:    3.00" / 76 mm    427.40 ft / 130.27 m    11.00 ft / 3.35 m
      Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
      Main Belt inclined -5.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      2.75" / 70 mm    427.40 ft / 130.27 m    29.00 ft / 8.84 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 70.00 ft / 21.34 m

   - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    14.0" / 356 mm    6.00" / 152 mm      13.0" / 330 mm
    2nd:    1.00" / 25 mm          -                  -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
    For and Aft decks: 4.10" / 104 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.00" / 178 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
    Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 4 shafts, 85,000 shp / 63,410 Kw = 26.51 kts
    Range 5,700nm at 13.00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 3,698 tons (70% coal)

Complement:
    1,196 - 1,555

Cost:
    £2.623 million / $10.490 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 2,507 tons, 7.8 %
       - Guns: 2,507 tons, 7.8 %
    Armour: 10,616 tons, 33.2 %
       - Belts: 3,932 tons, 12.3 %
       - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,261 tons, 3.9 %
       - Armament: 2,459 tons, 7.7 %
       - Armour Deck: 2,812 tons, 8.8 %
       - Conning Tower: 152 tons, 0.5 %
    Machinery: 3,619 tons, 11.3 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,536 tons, 32.9 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,420 tons, 10.7 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 1,305 tons, 4.1 %
       - Hull below water: 680 tons
       - Hull above water: 465 tons
       - On freeboard deck: 60 tons
       - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      41,472 lbs / 18,811 Kg = 30.2 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 6.9 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
    Metacentric height 6.0 ft / 1.8 m
    Roll period: 16.4 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 55 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
    Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.577 / 0.583
    Length to Beam Ratio: 6.85 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 25.64 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 4.81 degrees
    Stern overhang: -1.50 ft / -0.46 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,   Aft end
       - Forecastle:    20.00 %,28.50 ft / 8.69 m,23.25 ft / 7.09 m
       - Forward deck:    30.00 %,23.25 ft / 7.09 m,23.25 ft / 7.09 m
       - Aft deck:    35.00 %,15.50 ft / 4.72 m,15.50 ft / 4.72 m
       - Quarter deck:    15.00 %,15.50 ft / 4.72 m,15.50 ft / 4.72 m
       - Average freeboard:      19.80 ft / 6.03 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 137.3 %
    Waterplane Area: 45,188 Square feet or 4,198 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 185 lbs/sq ft or 902 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.96
      - Longitudinal: 1.37
      - Overall: 1.00
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Guns:
Main: 14"/45 MkI
2nd: 4"/45 QF MkI

Armour:
13.00" / 330 mm belt abreast magazines
13.00" / 330 mm belt abreast engineering spaces
5.00" / 127 mm deck over magazines
3.00" / 76 mm deck over engineering spaces
0.50" / 13 mm weather deck


oopsgeez 发表于 2022-2-13 20:22

本帖最后由 oopsgeez 于 2022-2-13 20:23 编辑

连virtual shipyard效果图都做了支持
是说这船彻底胜过女王级了吧?我如果是后者的设计师一定很没面子(笑)
(看得出来没有使用穿越科技....能赢女王是靠更大的排水量吗?)

虽然技术面没有穿越 但设计思考上大大地穿越了
这个水平装甲,没听过日德兰海战的人应该想不出来
弹库防御优于动力防御也违背当时的英国研究{:63:}

如果要说当年的设计师真的得到上帝启示
他们的思考方向大概会倾向
加高上装 而不会想到加厚水平装甲吧?

最后问一个您的SPS可以设定不同厚度的主装?
例如前后弹库与轮机段分别设定13吋与12吋?是怎么设定的啊?


洗甲板工 发表于 2022-2-14 23:55

女王的15寸主炮明显比14寸強,但之后乔五也是14寸炮而且弹重和初速都差不多所以也算夠用了。

装甲方面同期的米国战列舰也用了类似的设计所以不完全是穿越:)

至于sps装甲我只是算个平均输进去,反正sps只考虑重量。
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