以下战舰能否上4联装？

NorlenCruiser

重巡，轻巡，巡洋舰杀手。口径分别为：203、155、315,若是小白还请前辈原谅！

saibaby

有什么不可以的。
只要你出钱，你愿意10联都可以。

NorlenCruiser

saibaby 发表于 2012-9-26 20:14
有什么不可以的。
只要你出钱，你愿意10联都可以。

我的意思是宽度、防护等方面能否允许……还有性能。

Henschel

也不給一个具体的船体数据要我们意淫，意淫的不对你又很多牢骚话。

说到四联装，你先想一想有怎么样的战术需求需要四联装的炮塔。再考虑四联装的炮塔对舰只的影响以及成本问题。

如果只是为了四联装而去四联装怎么搞我都没意见。

lse

Of course YES
反正沒有船的大小一切也可能

saibaby

预算吨位没限制当然是可以的。
4联就舰体宽点，影响点航速。
你装个30w匹马力就行了。

2w顿的轻巡=32门155，3w吨的重巡=24门203
5w顿的巡洋舰杀手24门305

多么的威武

lse

2WT轻巡, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1940

Displacement:
        19,211 t light; 20,491 t standard; 21,851 t normal; 22,939 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
        (755.45 ft / 738.19 ft) x 82.02 ft x (22.97 / 23.87 ft)
        (230.26 m / 225.00 m) x 25.00 m  x (7.00 / 7.27 m)

Armament:
      32 - 6.10" / 155 mm 55.0 cal guns - 122.64lbs / 55.63kg shells, 300 per gun
          Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
          8 x Quad mounts on centreline, evenly spread
                2 raised mounts
      16 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 450 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1940 Model
          8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      60 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,000 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
          20 x Triple mounts on sides, evenly spread
                8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,535 lbs / 2,057 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:                Width (max)        Length (avg)                Height (avg)
        Main:        3.94" / 100 mm        479.82 ft / 146.25 m        10.86 ft / 3.31 m
        Ends:        Unarmoured
          Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
          Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Gun armour:        Face (max)        Other gunhouse (avg)        Barbette/hoist (max)
        Main:        3.94" / 100 mm        2.95" / 75 mm                2.95" / 75 mm
        2nd:        0.98" / 25 mm        0.98" / 25 mm                0.98" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
        For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
        Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
        Geared drive, 4 shafts, 263,433 shp / 196,521 Kw = 38.00 kts
        Range 6,000nm at 16.00 kts
        Bunker at max displacement = 2,449 tons

Complement:
        898 - 1,168

Cost:
        £12.999 million / $51.998 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
        Armament: 1,226 tons, 5.6 %
           - Guns: 1,226 tons, 5.6 %
        Armour: 2,826 tons, 12.9 %
           - Belts: 854 tons, 3.9 %
           - Armament: 710 tons, 3.2 %
           - Armour Deck: 1,263 tons, 5.8 %
        Machinery: 7,044 tons, 32.2 %
        Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,114 tons, 37.1 %
        Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,640 tons, 12.1 %
        Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
        Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
          16,417 lbs / 7,447 Kg = 144.5 x 6.1 " / 155 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
        Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.35
        Metacentric height 6.3 ft / 1.9 m
        Roll period: 13.7 seconds
        Steadiness        - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 36 %
                        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
        Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.51

Hull form characteristics:
        Hull has a flush deck,
          a straight bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
        Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.556
        Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
        'Natural speed' for length: 27.17 kts
        Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
        Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
        Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
        Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
        Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                                Fore end,         Aft end
           - Forecastle:        20.00 %,  29.89 ft / 9.11 m,  24.44 ft / 7.45 m
           - Forward deck:        30.00 %,  24.44 ft / 7.45 m,  19.03 ft / 5.80 m
           - Aft deck:        35.00 %,  19.03 ft / 5.80 m,  19.03 ft / 5.80 m
           - Quarter deck:        15.00 %,  19.03 ft / 5.80 m,  19.03 ft / 5.80 m
           - Average freeboard:                21.36 ft / 6.51 m
        Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
        Space        - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 128.0 %
                - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 181.7 %
        Waterplane Area: 42,255 Square feet or 3,926 Square metres
        Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
        Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 703 Kg/sq metre
        Hull strength (Relative):
                - Cross-sectional: 1.06
                - Longitudinal: 1.04
                - Overall: 1.05
        Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
        Excellent accommodation and workspace room
        Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

lse

3WT重巡, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1940

Displacement:
        30,243 t light; 31,898 t standard; 33,680 t normal; 35,105 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
        (851.45 ft / 836.61 ft) x 91.86 ft x (27.89 / 28.82 ft)
        (259.52 m / 255.00 m) x 28.00 m  x (8.50 / 8.78 m)

Armament:
      24 - 7.99" / 203 mm 60.0 cal guns - 279.58lbs / 126.81kg shells, 200 per gun
          Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
          6 x 4-gun mounts on centreline, evenly spread
                2 raised mounts
      20 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 400 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1940 Model
          10 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
                4 raised mounts
      60 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
          20 x Triple mounts on sides, evenly spread
                10 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 7,443 lbs / 3,376 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:                Width (max)        Length (avg)                Height (avg)
        Main:        7.87" / 200 mm        543.80 ft / 165.75 m        16.40 ft / 5.00 m
        Ends:        Unarmoured
          Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
          Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
                1.97" / 50 mm        543.80 ft / 165.75 m        25.59 ft / 7.80 m
        Beam between torpedo bulkheads 85.30 ft / 26.00 m

   - Gun armour:        Face (max)        Other gunhouse (avg)        Barbette/hoist (max)
        Main:        7.87" / 200 mm        3.94" / 100 mm                5.91" / 150 mm
        2nd:        0.98" / 25 mm        0.98" / 25 mm                0.98" / 25 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
        For and Aft decks: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
        Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
        Geared drive, 4 shafts, 289,985 shp / 216,329 Kw = 37.00 kts
        Range 6,000nm at 16.00 kts
        Bunker at max displacement = 3,207 tons

Complement:
        1,242 - 1,615

Cost:
        £18.301 million / $73.204 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
        Armament: 2,670 tons, 7.9 %
           - Guns: 2,670 tons, 7.9 %
        Armour: 8,517 tons, 25.3 %
           - Belts: 2,919 tons, 8.7 %
           - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,014 tons, 3.0 %
           - Armament: 1,379 tons, 4.1 %
           - Armour Deck: 3,206 tons, 9.5 %
        Machinery: 7,754 tons, 23.0 %
        Hull, fittings & equipment: 11,303 tons, 33.6 %
        Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,436 tons, 10.2 %
        Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
        Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
          36,661 lbs / 16,629 Kg = 143.6 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 4.4 torpedoes
        Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
        Metacentric height 6.4 ft / 2.0 m
        Roll period: 15.2 seconds
        Steadiness        - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 43 %
                        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
        Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.73

Hull form characteristics:
        Hull has a flush deck,
          a straight bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
        Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.555
        Length to Beam Ratio: 9.11 : 1
        'Natural speed' for length: 28.92 kts
        Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
        Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
        Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
        Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
        Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                                Fore end,         Aft end
           - Forecastle:        20.00 %,  31.82 ft / 9.70 m,  26.02 ft / 7.93 m
           - Forward deck:        30.00 %,  26.02 ft / 7.93 m,  20.24 ft / 6.17 m
           - Aft deck:        35.00 %,  20.24 ft / 6.17 m,  20.24 ft / 6.17 m
           - Quarter deck:        15.00 %,  20.24 ft / 6.17 m,  20.24 ft / 6.17 m
           - Average freeboard:                22.73 ft / 6.93 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
        Space        - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108.2 %
                - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177.5 %
        Waterplane Area: 53,636 Square feet or 4,983 Square metres
        Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
        Structure weight / hull surface area: 179 lbs/sq ft or 876 Kg/sq metre
        Hull strength (Relative):
                - Cross-sectional: 1.16
                - Longitudinal: 1.08
                - Overall: 1.10
        Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
        Excellent accommodation and workspace room
        Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

lse

saibaby 发表于 2012-9-26 23:28
预算吨位没限制当然是可以的。
4联就舰体宽点，影响点航速。
你装个30w匹马力就行了。

5WT巡洋舰杀手, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1940

Displacement:
        49,242 t light; 50,861 t standard; 54,695 t normal; 57,763 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
        (918.64 ft / 918.64 ft) x 104.99 ft x (36.09 / 37.66 ft)
        (280.00 m / 280.00 m) x 32.00 m  x (11.00 / 11.48 m)

Armament:
      24 - 12.01" / 305 mm 50.0 cal guns - 916.47lbs / 415.70kg shells, 30 per gun
          Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
          6 x Quad mounts on centreline, evenly spread
                2 raised mounts
      24 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 350 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1940 Model
          12 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
                6 raised mounts
      90 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 150 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
          30 x Triple mounts on sides, evenly spread
                15 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 22,911 lbs / 10,392 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:                Width (max)        Length (avg)                Height (avg)
        Main:        11.8" / 300 mm        597.11 ft / 182.00 m        18.04 ft / 5.50 m
        Ends:        Unarmoured
          Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
          Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
          Main Belt inclined 25.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
                5.91" / 150 mm        597.11 ft / 182.00 m        33.14 ft / 10.10 m
        Beam between torpedo bulkheads 82.02 ft / 25.00 m

   - Gun armour:        Face (max)        Other gunhouse (avg)        Barbette/hoist (max)
        Main:        11.8" / 300 mm        6.89" / 175 mm                10.0" / 254 mm
        2nd:        0.98" / 25 mm        0.98" / 25 mm                0.98" / 25 mm

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
        For and Aft decks: 7.87" / 200 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 15.75" / 400 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
        Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
        Geared drive, 5 shafts, 301,438 shp / 224,873 Kw = 35.00 kts
        Range 10,000nm at 16.00 kts
        Bunker at max displacement = 6,902 tons

Complement:
        1,787 - 2,324

Cost:
        £31.294 million / $125.177 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
        Armament: 4,544 tons, 8.3 %
           - Guns: 4,544 tons, 8.3 %
        Armour: 22,018 tons, 40.3 %
           - Belts: 5,311 tons, 9.7 %
           - Torpedo bulkhead: 4,323 tons, 7.9 %
           - Armament: 3,603 tons, 6.6 %
           - Armour Deck: 8,046 tons, 14.7 %
           - Conning Towers: 733 tons, 1.3 %
        Machinery: 8,060 tons, 14.7 %
        Hull, fittings & equipment: 14,620 tons, 26.7 %
        Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,454 tons, 10.0 %
        Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
        Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
          60,345 lbs / 27,372 Kg = 69.7 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 9.3 torpedoes
        Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
        Metacentric height 6.4 ft / 2.0 m
        Roll period: 17.4 seconds
        Steadiness        - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 47 %
                        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.74
        Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.89

Hull form characteristics:
        Hull has a flush deck,
          a normal bow and a cruiser stern
        Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.557
        Length to Beam Ratio: 8.75 : 1
        'Natural speed' for length: 30.31 kts
        Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
        Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
        Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
        Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
        Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                                Fore end,         Aft end
           - Forecastle:        20.00 %,  33.33 ft / 10.16 m,  27.26 ft / 8.31 m
           - Forward deck:        30.00 %,  27.26 ft / 8.31 m,  21.23 ft / 6.47 m
           - Aft deck:        35.00 %,  21.23 ft / 6.47 m,  21.23 ft / 6.47 m
           - Quarter deck:        15.00 %,  21.23 ft / 6.47 m,  21.23 ft / 6.47 m
           - Average freeboard:                23.83 ft / 7.26 m
        Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
        Space        - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109.1 %
                - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162.3 %
        Waterplane Area: 67,308 Square feet or 6,253 Square metres
        Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
        Structure weight / hull surface area: 210 lbs/sq ft or 1,025 Kg/sq metre
        Hull strength (Relative):
                - Cross-sectional: 1.00
                - Longitudinal: 1.04
                - Overall: 1.01
        Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
        Excellent accommodation and workspace room
        Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

saibaby

lse 发表于 2012-9-27 00:12
5WT巡洋舰杀手, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1940

Displacement:

很好很强大啊。基本和我想象的差不多。
4轴的轻巡。5轴的BC。好像有点hentai啊。。。
还有11m的吃水？这个好像比yamato还。。。

还有这个造价是哪年的比值？
2战时候的？
如果是2战的币值，那就超出我想象的贵！

Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather
这个结论怎么得出的？就这点数据就能看出适航性来？干玄很高啊。

lse

saibaby 发表于 2012-9-27 00:37
很好很强大啊。基本和我想象的差不多。
4轴的轻巡。5轴的BC。好像有点hentai啊。。。
还有11m的吃水？这 ...

1.Yamato 吃水10.15m但方型系數大
2.SPS幣值只供參考
3.SPS只以艦首干舷高度決定適航,即使中部干舷=0,只要船首足夠高.SPS也會顯示exllcent seaboat

lse

Renewed version  of 5WT巡洋舰杀手



Displacement:
        49,097 t light; 51,573 t standard; 54,695 t normal; 57,193 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
        (933.93 ft / 918.64 ft) x 104.99 ft x (36.09 / 37.39 ft)
        (284.66 m / 280.00 m) x 32.00 m  x (11.00 / 11.40 m)

Armament:
      24 - 12.01" / 305 mm 50.0 cal guns - 916.46lbs / 415.70kg shells, 90 per gun
          Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
          6 x Quad mounts on centreline, evenly spread
                2 raised mounts
      24 - 3.94" / 100 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 450 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1940 Model
          12 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
                6 raised mounts
      90 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.96lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,000 per gun
          Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1940 Model
          30 x Triple mounts on sides, evenly spread
                15 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 22,910 lbs / 10,392 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:                Width (max)        Length (avg)                Height (avg)
        Main:        11.8" / 300 mm        597.11 ft / 182.00 m        18.04 ft / 5.50 m
        Ends:        Unarmoured
          Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
          Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
          Main Belt inclined 25.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
                5.91" / 150 mm        597.11 ft / 182.00 m        33.14 ft / 10.10 m
        Beam between torpedo bulkheads 82.02 ft / 25.00 m

   - Gun armour:        Face (max)        Other gunhouse (avg)        Barbette/hoist (max)
        Main:        11.8" / 300 mm        6.89" / 175 mm                10.0" / 254 mm
        2nd:        0.98" / 25 mm        0.98" / 25 mm                0.98" / 25 mm

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
        For and Aft decks: 7.87" / 200 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13.78" / 350 mm, Aft 13.78" / 350 mm

Machinery:
        Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
        Geared drive, 5 shafts, 301,438 shp / 224,873 Kw = 35.00 kts
        Range 8,000nm at 16.00 kts
        Bunker at max displacement = 5,620 tons

Complement:
        1,787 - 2,324

Cost:
        £31.264 million / $125.055 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
        Armament: 4,544 tons, 8.3 %
           - Guns: 4,544 tons, 8.3 %
        Armour: 22,000 tons, 40.2 %
           - Belts: 5,311 tons, 9.7 %
           - Torpedo bulkhead: 4,323 tons, 7.9 %
           - Armament: 3,464 tons, 6.3 %
           - Armour Deck: 8,046 tons, 14.7 %
           - Conning Towers: 856 tons, 1.6 %
        Machinery: 8,060 tons, 14.7 %
        Hull, fittings & equipment: 14,492 tons, 26.5 %
        Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,599 tons, 10.2 %
        Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
        Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
          57,433 lbs / 26,051 Kg = 66.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 8.8 torpedoes
        Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
        Metacentric height 6.5 ft / 2.0 m
        Roll period: 17.3 seconds
        Steadiness        - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 45 %
                        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.68
        Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.79

Hull form characteristics:
        Hull has a flush deck,
          a straight bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
        Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.555
        Length to Beam Ratio: 8.75 : 1
        'Natural speed' for length: 30.31 kts
        Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
        Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
        Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
        Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
        Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                                Fore end,         Aft end
           - Forecastle:        20.00 %,  32.81 ft / 10.00 m,  26.25 ft / 8.00 m
           - Forward deck:        30.00 %,  26.25 ft / 8.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
           - Aft deck:        35.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
           - Quarter deck:        15.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
           - Average freeboard:                22.51 ft / 6.86 m
        Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
        Space        - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111.2 %
                - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152.1 %
        Waterplane Area: 67,308 Square feet or 6,253 Square metres
        Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
        Structure weight / hull surface area: 211 lbs/sq ft or 1,030 Kg/sq metre
        Hull strength (Relative):
                - Cross-sectional: 1.02
                - Longitudinal: 0.99
                - Overall: 1.00
        Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
        Excellent accommodation and workspace room
        Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather