The high-velocity heavy gun had fallen out of favor in the British Navy because of the problems experienced with the 16"/45 (40.6 cm) Mark I used on the Nelson class battleships. For this reason, the design of the new 14"/45 (35.6 cm) Mark VII reverted to the lower velocities used in guns produced before and during World War I. As a result, the muzzle velocity of the new Mark VII did not differ appreciatively from that achieved by the 14"/45 (35.6 cm) Mark I carried by the battleship Canada (ex-Chilean Almirante Latorre) during World War I. The decision to use 14" (35.6 cm) guns on the King George V class Battleships was made in order to comply with Treaty restrictions, despite the fact that other European powers were building ships with larger weapons. As a result, the King George V class were arguably the weakest-armed battleships built in the 1930 to 1946 time period. The design of this gun was based upon the 12"/50 (30.5 cm) Mark XIV, which was an experimental weapon completed in August 1933 to test "all steel" construction techniques. These new 14" (35.6 cm) guns were to a no-wire, radial-expansion construction, which resulted in a stronger, lighter gun that was less likely to suffer from barrel droop. This improved design gave the British a weapon that was more accurate and had a longer barrel life than the larger 16"/45 (40.6 cm) Mark I. Unfortunately, the mountings for these weapons were prone to mechanical failures during the early part of the war, with both HMS Prince of Wales and HMS King George V having numerous problems during their engagements against Bismarck. Many, if not most, of these problems had been corrected by 1943. During the early part of her action against Scharnhorst at the Battle of the North Cape on 26 December 1943, HMS Duke of York scored 31 straddles out of 52 broadsides fired and during the latter part she scored 21 straddles out of 25 broadsides, a very creditable gunnery performance. In total, Duke of York fired 450 shells in 77 broadsides. However, HMS Duke of York still fired less than 70% of her possible output during this battle because of mechanical and "errors in drill" problems. In addition to those used on the battleships, a further two guns were used as coastal artillery at Dover, but their extemporized mountings were not suitable for targeting fast moving ships. These coastal guns were supplied with a supercharge, giving them a very long range. Consisted of tapered inner A tube, A tube, jacket breech ring of rectangular external shape, breech bush located in the A tube and a shrunk collar over the A tube. Used a Welin breech block and hydraulic Asbury mechanism. Including the two trial guns, a total of 78 guns were made, 24 by the Royal Gun Factory, 39 by Vickers-Armstrong, Elswick and 15 by Beardmore. The last 46 guns produced had a different shape to the breech ring which lowered the overall weight of the gun. These latter guns used a 12.5 ton (12.7 mt) counterweight while the earlier guns used a 11 ton (11.2 mt) counterweight in order to maintain the same center of balance. The Mark VII* was a loose barrel version, but none were ever manufactured. These were the first heavy British guns in service to recoil in a cast steel cradle rather than on slides. This was a feature first prototyped on the 12"/50 (30.5 cm) Mark XIV. At least one gun still exists and is currently on display at the Royal Armoury located at Fort Nelson, Hampshire, UK. |
Aft turret on HMS King George V about 1940
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Designation | 14"/45 (35.6 cm) Mark VII |
Ship Class Used On | King George V class |
Date Of Design | 1937 |
Date In Service | 1940 |
Gun Weight
(see Note) |
Early guns: 79.588 tons (80.865
mt)
Later guns: 78.988 tons (80.256 mt) |
Gun Length oa | 651 in (16.532 m) |
Bore Length | 630 in (16.002 m) |
Rifling Length | 515.7 in (13.098 m) |
Grooves | (72) 0.117 in deep x 0.3665 (2.97 x 9.309 mm) |
Lands | 0.2444 in (6.208 mm) |
Twist | Uniform RH 1 in 30 |
Chamber Volume | 22,000 in3 (360.5 dm3) |
Rate Of Fire | 2 rounds per minute |
The weight in the table above for "Early guns" is for guns No. 51 to 90 which had the original breech ring design. The weight given for "Later guns" is for guns No. 91 to 136 which had the altered breech ring design. In addition to these weights, a balance weight was attached near the breech in order to move the center of gravity closer to the turret face plate. This allowed a higher elevation without having to deepen the gun wells, thus reducing the size of the gunhouse. Including the balance weight, guns No. 61 to 90 weighed 90.588 tons (92.042 mt) and guns No. 91 to 136 weighed 91.488 tons (92.956 mt). |
Type | Bag |
Projectile Types and Weights | APC Mark VIIB - 1,590 lbs. (721 kg)
HE - 1,590 lbs. (721 kg) |
Bursting Charge | 48.5 lbs. (22.0 kg) |
Projectile Length | 61.6 in (156.5 cm) |
Propellant Charge | Standard: 338.3 lbs. (153.4 kg)
SC 300
Coastal artillery super charge: 486 lbs. (220.4 kg) SC 500 |
Muzzle Velocity | Ships (new gun): 2,483 fps (757
mps)
Coastal artillery super charge: 2,850 fps (869 mps) |
Working Pressure | 20.5 tons/in2 (3,230 kg/cm2) |
Approximate Barrel Life | 340 rounds |
Ammunition stowage per gun | 100 rounds |
Notes:
1) The propellant charge was in four bags. 2) For Treaty compliance purposes, these ships were listed as carrying 80 rounds per gun but they actually had space for 100. 3) The original outfit was 100 rounds of APC per gun, but by mid-1943 five of these had been replaced by time-fuzed HE. 4) APC was 6/12crh. 5) From late 1942 to early 1943, "K" shell was introduced which contained dyes for coloring shell splashes. These shells also had a small fuze and burster to disperse the dye. I do not have the weight of these projectiles, but I would estimate that they would have added about 5 - 6 lbs. (2.3 - 2.7 kg) to the APC weight listed above unless there was a corresponding weight reduction in some other area. The following colors are listed in a 20 June 1946 Fleet Order: King George V: Yellow
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Elevation |
MV of 2,400 fps (732 mps) |
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2.5 degrees |
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5.5 degrees |
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9.25 degrees |
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13.75 degrees |
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19.25 degrees |
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26.2 degrees |
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36.0 degrees |
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40.7 degrees |
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40 degrees
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45 degrees
Coastal artillery with super charges |
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Note: Time of flight
for APC Shell with MV = 2,400 fps (731.5 mps)
10,000 yards (9,140 m): 14.1 seconds 20,000 yards (18,290 m): 32.4 seconds 30,000 yards (27,430 m): 57.4 seconds 36,500 yards (33,380 m): 83.2 seconds |
Range |
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0 yards (0 m) |
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10,000 yards (9,144 m) |
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15,000 yards (13,716 m) |
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20,000 yards (18,288 m) |
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25,000 yards (22,860 m) |
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28,000 yards (25,603 m) |
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Note: This data is from "Battleships: Allied Battleships in World War II" for a muzzle velocity of 2,400 fps (732 mps) and is partly based upon the USN Empirical Formula for Armor Penetration and partly based upon official data. |
Range |
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13,700 yards (12,530 m) |
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15,800 yards (14,450 m) |
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18,000 yards (16,460 m) |
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20,000 yards (18,290 m) |
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20,500 yards (18,750 m) |
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23,700 yards (21,670 m) |
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24,000 yards (21,950 m) |
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28,000 yards (25,600 m) |
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32,000 yards (29,260 m) |
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Note: This data is from "British Battleships of World War Two." This table assumes 90 degree inclination and is based upon theoretical calculations performed in 1935, not actual firing trials. |
Designation | Two-gun Turret
King George V (1): Mark II Four-gun Turret
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Weight | Mark II: 915 tons (900.5 mt)
Mark III: 1,582 tons (1,557 mt) |
Elevation | -3 / +40 degrees |
Rate of Elevation | 8 degrees per second |
Train | "A" Turret: - 143 / +143 degrees
"B" and "X" Turrets: - 135 / +135 degrees |
Rate of Train | 2 degrees per second |
Gun Recoil | 45 in (114 cm) |
Loading Angle | +5 degrees |
Notes:
1) The following description is adapted from "Naval Weapons of World War Two. Propellant bags were transported from their storage locations in the magazines on roller chutes into hydraulically operated cages that raised them to the handling room. A and B mountings had four cages, but Y turret had two. Y turret had two double-door scuttles in place of the other two hoists, primarily because of the reduced vertical spacing for this mounting. In the handling rooms, bags were manually rolled or slid over to open waiting trays from which they were then manually carried to cordite hoppers. There was one hopper per gun on a circular platform connected to the hoist trunk. Power-rotated scuttles and chain rammers transferred the bags to the lower hoist cage. This cage had two compartments which each held two propellant bags (half charge).2) Training was by one of two swashplate engines, 160 bhp in the quads and 70 bhp in the twin, which drove the turrets via a worm gear. Elevation was by hydraulic cylinder and piston connected to the rear of the cradle and run out was via compressed air. RPC equipment was never fitted to any of these ships, they used "follow the pointer" style control throughout their careers. 3) These mountings had very elaborate flash precautions, perhaps overly so given the problems encountered during World War II. 4) "The Big Gun" states that the quadruple mounting had over 3,000 working parts. 5) These turrets had a vertical roller race similar to the ones added to the Nelson and Rodney in the 1930s. These were located just below the main horizontal roller races. 6) The gun axes were 96 in (244 cm) apart in both the twin and the quad mountings. 7) Rangefinders in A and X turrets had a baselength of 41 feet (12.5m) while the rangefinder in B turret had a baselength of 30 feet (9.10 m). 8) Some details of the problems found in action with these mountings during the 1941 battles: Prince of Wales fired only 55 out of a possible 74 shells during her action with Bismarck. Her problems included jammed shell rings and associated fittings. King George V fired 339 shells during her engagement with Bismarck compared to 380 fired by Rodney. 9) The following description of the problems encountered by King George V is taken from "The Final Action: The Sinking of Bismarck, 27 May 1941" by John Roberts: "Initially she did well achieving 1.7 salvoes per minute while employing radar control but she began to suffer severe problems from 0920 onward [Note: King George V had opened fire at 0850 - TD]. 'A' turret was completely out of action for 30 minutes, after firing about 23 rounds per gun, due to a jam between the fixed and revolving structure in the shell room and Y turret was out of action for 7 minutes due to drill errors. . . Both guns in B turret, guns 2 and 4 in A turret and gun 2 in Y turret were put out of action by jams and remained so until after the action - 5 guns out of 10! There were a multitude of other problems with mechanical failures and drill errors that caused delays and missed salvoes. There were also some misfires - one gun (3 of A turret) misfired twice and was out of action for 30 minutes before it was considered safe to open the breech."
"Comparatively little experience had previously been gained of the reliability of the turrets. The prolonged practice firing for the King George V had been carried out only in one turret. It was fortunate that the action [against Bismarck] was not prolonged, because the 25 rounds per gun practice previously planned would not have shown up so many of the defects."10) Following the Bismarck battles, King George V and Prince of Wales had numerous modifications made to their ammunition supply safety interlock system; the watertightness of the mantlet plates was improved; and the existing drains in the shell rooms were enlarged and additional drains fitted. These changes were incorporated into the rest of the class as they were being built. 11) During her battle with Scharnhorst at North Cape, Duke of York was shooting for a total of two hours. Mechanical problems suffered included failures of the bridge flash tubes in the working chambers to close completely, the collapse of shell arresters in the lower hoists and a shell-cage defect in A turret, all of which caused some guns to drop out of firing opportunities. All guns suffered at least some failures to fire, with B1 gun being the most reliable, having missed only three out of the 77 broadsides. Notable among these missed salvos: Poor loading drill put A3 gun out of action for 71 of the 77 broadsides. Three guns in Y turret were unable to fire for a 15 minute period, causing them to miss 17 broadsides. 12) Some comments from William Jurens regarding the vertical face plates of these turrets. "The reason for sloped turret faces is primarily geometric. For normal trunnion locations, if the turret face is not sloped back, then for large angles of [gun] elevation, as in post-1930 ships, the gunports get very large and start to eat away at the turret roof. If the angle of elevation is small as on older ships, [then the] angles of fall [of shells fired by enemy ships] would be equally small, so a slanted faceplate which would deflect rounds upward makes sense. If the angle of elevation is large and a vertical front plate is seen to be desirable, as in KGV etc., then one answer to avoiding cutting long slots in the roofplates is to move the trunnions far forward. This makes the overall rotating structure and the guns themselves harder to balance and complicates gun elevation mechanisms. On KGV a compromise was made; the trunnions were moved as far forward as possible, and the front plate was moved BACK as far as was feasible. Even so, the maximum angle of elevation was limited to 40 degrees. There is little saving in weight in moving to a vertical faceplate, in some cases less than none.As can be seen in the photographs above, the quad turrets on the King George V class have a semi-circular plate of armor attached to the lower front plate of the turret. This plate protects the top of the barbette. 13) Two guns were mounted at Dover in 1940, one in No. 26 Proof Structure and the other in a 18"/40 (45.7 cm) mounting removed from a monitor. 14) Armor thickness for both twin and quad
mountings as given in "Naval Weapons of World War Two" by John Campbell:
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14 September 2008 - Benchmark
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in Ammunition Table
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error
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