United States of America
5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12
Pictures

Updated 25 October 2012



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USS Drayton DD-366 during the late 1930s
These are open-back shield pedestal mounts, a variation of the Mark 21 mounting
Note the bulge on the left side of the mounts, which was needed to accommodate the fuze setting mechanism
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 67725



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Bow of USS Mahan DD-364 in June 1944
Another view of the Mark 21 open-back shield pedestal mounts.  Note the groove in the deck of Mount #2.  This was to allow a path for ejected cartridge cases when the gun was at high elevations.  The later base ring mounts had the gun mounted a few inches higher and so did not need this groove.  Note the Mark 33 director and its newly added radar and the non-slip tread material patterns on the decks.
Also note the large "sprayshield" around Mount 52.  This shield was actually meant to protect the gun crew on the lower deck from the blast from the upper gun.  Later destroyers with enclosed gunmounts did not need this extra protection and so do not have these shields.
Detail from U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 19-N-67752



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No. 3 gun on USS Shaw DD-373 in July 1942
This is a Mark 21 pedestal mounting.  Note the three circular dials that the officer is pointing to.  These are "follow the pointer" indicators which are used to show the sight angle (superelevation) (RH glass face dial), deflection angle (bearing) (LH glass face dial) and the range (bottom metal face dial).  Inside each of the two glass-face dials are two smaller dials - an inner disc dial mounted on a synchro motor shaft and an outer ring dial inscribed with a scale.  The inner disc dial synchro motors were operated from the fire control computer and showed the desired sight angle and deflection angle as calculated by the computer while the outer ring dials showed the current sight angle and deflection angle of the gunsights.  The bottom dial is the range indicator with the black slot on the right being the readout location which shows the range in yards.  The range dial and the sight angle dial are geared together.  The enlisted man with the head phones is a "sight setter" whose job was to ensure that the two dials in each indicator were in line with each other before the gun was fired in automatic mode (which is where the command "match pointers and shoot" comes from).  He did this by turning two hand cranks, one which adjusted the sight angle and range dials and the other which adjusted the deflection angle dial.  Turning these hand cranks also moved the prisms in the gunsights used by the trainer and pointer such that, when the pointers were matched, their crosshairs should be on the target.  In local control, the sight setter was directed by the mount captain as to the proper settings to be used.

The drill projectiles being held by the two sailors on the left are of interest.  The major difference from the 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12 and its AA predecessor, the 5"/25 (12.7 cm) Mark 10 was its use of semi-fixed (separate) ammunition rather than fixed ammunition.  Other interesting features in this photograph are the prominent open sights above the gun and the electric rammer/counterweight at the breech end of the weapon.

U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 80-G-22246



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USS Balch DD-363 in April 1939
This was one of the few ships to use the SP Mark 22 mountings.  SP weapons were deemed acceptable on these destroyers as they were large enough to mount two 1.1" (28 mm) quadruple mounts, one forward of the bridge and the second one on the after superstructure just in front of Mount 53.  Note the second director on the aft superstructure and the stowage for torpedo reloads at the base of the second stack.  The Porter (DD-356) class, of which Balch was a member, were the only US destroyers so equipped with both items.  However, both of these plus the mainmast and Mount 53 were removed early in the war as weight compensation for additional light AA and radar.  Later, some of these ships had all of their 5" (12.7 cm) SP armament replaced with five 5" (12.7 cm) DP weapons and their one remaining director upgraded to the Mark 37 GFCS.
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 97951



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USS Phelps DD-360 in November 1942
A good close up of the Mark 22 mounts
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 19-N-38915



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USS Jarvis DD-393 in 1937
This destroyer had two Mark 30 Mod 1 mounts on the bow and two Mark 21 mounts on the stern
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 67842



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USS Blue DD-387 in April 1942 showing her bow Mark 30 mountings
Note the Mark 33 Director on top of the superstructure
Detail from U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 19-N-29229



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Mark 30 single mounts on USS Arron Ward DD-483 in May 1942
Note 5" (12.7 cm) propellant canisters on the left and Mark 37 FCS with "FD" Radar
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 19-N-30722



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Mark 38 twin mounts on USS O'Brien DD-725 in August 1961
Note Mark 11 Hedgehog projectors on either side of the bridge
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 103018


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USS Wichita CA-45 firing at Saipan on 26 June 1944
These are Mark 21 or possibly Mark 24 pedestal mountings
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 80-G-238240



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USS Atlanta CL-51 on trials in 1942 showing seven of her eight 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 29 twin mountings
Note the wing or broadside mounting, which was installed only on the first four ships of this class
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 57453
Picture courtesy of Preston Cook and USS Atlanta Website



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Another Atlanta-class light cruiser, this one USS San Juan CL-54 in June 1942
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 19-N-31525



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USS Mobile CL-63 in July 1943
Good overhead view of twin 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 32 mountings
Note the Mark 34 (left) director with Mark 8 radar antenna and Mark 37 director with Mark 4 radar antenna
Detail from U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 98169



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5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 21 single mountings aboard USS Yorktown CV-5 during Battle of Midway
The cruiser in the background is USS Astoria CA-34
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 80-G-312019


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Good overhead view of 5" (12.7 cm) Mark 24 pedestal mounting on USS Bennington CV-20 in 1944
The gunsights are being aligned by utilizing a batten board.  The long vertical stripes on the batten board are used to adjust the gunsights such that they remain in parallel with the barrel as it elevates.
Photograph used here by permission of USS Bennington website



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5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 24 pedestal mount on USS Hornet CV-12

Note the Mechanical Fuze Setter on the side of the gun platform.  These were installed on those mounts lacking integral hoists and were used to set the time fuzes on AA projectiles.  Up to three projectiles could be inserted nose-down into the slots on this machine.  At the bottom of each slot there is a nose cup with a pawl that engages a lug on the projectile's time fuze ring.  The Fuze Setter crewman watches a dial on the Mechanical Fuze Setter that has two pointers and a scale representing fuze time in seconds.  The Fire Control System, such as the Mark 37 GFCS, moves the first pointer, which represents the calculated fuze setting needed to engage the target aircraft.  The Fuze Setter crewman then rotates a control wheel on the Mechanical Fuze Setter until the second pointer matches the first pointer (again, this is where the command "match pointers and shoot" comes from).  The Mechanical Fuze Setter rotates the nose cups per the position of the second pointer, thus moving the time fuzes on the projectiles to the desired setting.  Having three slots allows enough time for each successive shell to be set to the proper time setting before the shell man picks it out of the machine and places it into the loading tray on the gun.  This method of fuze setting also allows the time fuzes to be continually updated by the Fire Control System until the moment they are plucked from the machine, thus ensuring the best possible setting for each individual shell (a "deadtime" to allow for the interval between when a shell is plucked from the Mechanical Fuze Setter and when it is fired out of the gun is automatically included in the fire control calculations).

Photograph copyrighted by Shirley Sachsen and used here by her kind permission


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5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 21 on USS Yorktown CV-5 just prior to commissioning
This is either a Mod 1 or a Mod 16
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 19-N-17439


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Fuze-setting mechanism for mountings having projectile hoists
Crewmen in the handling room place projectiles nose-down into the cups with the fixed lug inserted into the V-groove slot.  As the projectile travels up the hoist, the fuze-setter chain moves the sprocket which rotates the the inner socket.  The pawls on the inner socket engage the time ring lug, rotating the fuze to the proper setting as determined by either the automatic fire control system or by a crewman manually turning a handwheel.


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Crew positions for a typical open 5"/38 (12.7 cm) mount lacking integral hoists such as used on carriers
Note the Mechanical Fuze Setter and its operator on the left of the platform


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Crew positions for a typical enclosed base-ring Mark 30 mountings with integral hoists
Time fuzes are set in the shell hoists for this type of mounting, eliminating the need for a Mechanical Fuze Setter


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One of two 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 37 Mounts now at Lancaster Elementary School in Lancaster, Kentucky
These were simplified mountings used to arm merchantmen and auxiliaries
Note the narrower working platform of the Mark 37 mount when compared to the Mark 24 and Mark 30 open mounts and the lack of a fuze setter.  The two mountings on display at this school are missing the rear portion of the platform.  A more complete example of the Mark 37 mounting is on display at the National Museum of the Pacific War located at Fredericksburg, Texas, USA.
Photograph copyrighted by Hank Murphy and used here by his kind permission


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USS Valley Forge CV-45
Twin 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 32 mounts during target practice in November 1949
Note the Skyraiders, a versatile warplane that served for twenty years in the USN
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # NH 70276



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USS Missouri BB-63
Twin 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 28 mounts in action during a night gunnery practice in August 1944
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # 80-G-K-4550



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Replacing a gun barrel on USS Taussig DD-746 in 1969
The bayonet-joint connecting the gun barrel to the receiver group on this weapon meant that such changeouts could be rapidly and easily accomplished without dismantling the gun house or dismounting the gun.  It takes about 8 hours to change out one gun.
U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph # USN 1143149
(National Archives Photograph # 428-N-1143149)



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HMS Delhi after being refitted in the USA with five 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 30 mounts and two Mark 37 GFCS
Note that the Mark 37 directors are equipped with British radars
Photograph courtesy of Steve Johnson of Cyberheritage


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Removing 5" (12.7 cm) projectiles from USS Missouri (BB-63) in 1950


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Italian Impavido (D-570) guided missile destroyer in May 1983
An example of how the 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12 continued to be used on new construction long after the end of the war
U.S. Navy Photograph No. DN-SC-92-01098



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The 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Twin Mount Mark 32
This mounting was used on carriers and cruisers

Sketch copyrighted by John Roberts

  1. Trunnion 28. Elevating arc (fixed to gun slide)
  2. Gun port shield 29. Training gear motor
  3. Training gear handwheel 30. Sight-setter's seat
  4. Right gun carriage 31. Training connecting shaft
  5. Training indicator regulator 32. Sight-setter's indicator
  6. Training gear box, B-end 33. Fuze-setting indicator regulator
  7. Training gear box, A-end 34. Trainer's Telescope
  8. Barbette (fixed to ship) 35. Trainer's seat
  9. Ventilating system motor 36. Rammer pump
10. Ready-service projectile stowage in handling room 37. Case ejector chute
11. Projectile hoist (mount) 38. Voice tube
12. Projectile hoist (ship) 39. Ammunition hoist motors, under captain's platform
13. Powder hoist (mount) 40. Mount captain's platform
14. Powder hoist (ship) 41. Hatch
15. Ready-service powder stowage in handling room 42. Elevating gear motor
16. Base ring (training rack on inside) 43. Checker's telescope
17. Air intake compartment 44. Pointer's seat
18. Case ejection chute door on back of shield 45. Pointer's telescope
19. Air vent trunk 46. Pointer's foot firing pedal
20. Auxiliary case-ejection port, in back of shield 47. Elevating cross-shaft
21. Case ejector 48. Fuze-setter's seat
22. Roof hatch counterbalance 49. Roof hatch
23. Mount captain's blast hood 50. Rear access door
24. Open sight 51. Foot rungs
25. Air intakes 52. Side access door retaining hatch
26. Rammer motor 53. Side access door
27. Right gun slide  


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Arrangements for a typical twin 5"/38 (12.7 cm) mounting



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Mark 24 Mod 6 Mounting
This was a power-worked pedestal mounting used on destroyers.  Note the Fuze setting mechanism on the left side of the mount, a common feature on pedestal mounts.

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Mark 30 Mod 8 Mounting
This was a power-worked base ring mount without shield used on destroyers and auxiliaries.  Compare this mounting to the Mark 24 and note the ammunition hoists and the resulting wider base needed to accommodate them.

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Mark 30 Mod 18 Mounting
This was a power operated base ring mounting used on destroyers and some auxiliaries.

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Mark 30 Mod 51 Mounting
A simplified base ring mounting without the ammunition hoists.  Used on some auxiliaries.  Note that the gun axis is the same height above the weather deck in all Mark 30 mountings.


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Cutaway sketch of 5"/38 (12.7 cm) ammunition


Off-site Resources

Pictures by Vladimir Yakubov of 5"/38 (12.7 cm) Mark 12 on USS Hornet (CV-12)


Page History

03 December 2008 - Benchmark
14 January 2011 - Added cutaway sketch
25 October 2012 - Minor changes for clarity