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无聊架空--轻型8寸巡洋舰

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二年服役纪念章

发表于 2024-10-7 23:25 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
根据这帖 https://www.warships.com.cn/thread-7101-1-1.html 和其他贴,公认巡洋舰要8寸主炮,然后七千吨是理想的排水量(见李安特级)所以问题是两者可否共存?我试了一下,用了 2x3 的设计,在优化了一下舰体,把标排砍到7190吨。动力方面,70000 shp 可以跑 31.5节,假设 42.8 shp / ton 输出,SPS 高估了540吨,我在杂项重量减回。装甲可以堆到弹药库4寸,主甲带2寸,甲板2寸,是有点脆脆...... 为了减重,架空了 2x2 4.7" / 40 高炮 (基于纳尔逊级)。最后预留了一架水上飞机的重量。

大佬们可以在这基础上继续改良



SPS 数据
Deneb, Royal Navy heavy cruiser laid down 1928

Displacement:
    6,895 t light; 7,196 t standard; 8,123 t normal; 8,866 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (575.50 ft / 570.40 ft) x 57.50 ft x (18.25 / 19.47 ft)
    (175.41 m / 173.86 m) x 17.53 m  x (5.56 / 5.93 m)

Armament:
      6 - 8.00" / 203 mm 51.6 cal guns - 256.00lbs / 116.12kg shells, 120 per gun
      Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model
      2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 4.72" / 120 mm 41.7 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 200 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1928 Model
      2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
        2 raised mounts
      8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 61.0 cal guns - 2.01lbs / 0.91kg shells, 1,500 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
      8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1,752 lbs / 795 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    2.52" / 64 mm    379.30 ft / 115.61 m    10.75 ft / 3.28 m
    Ends:    0.50" / 13 mm    191.05 ft / 58.23 m    5.00 ft / 1.52 m
      Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
      Main Belt inclined 7.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    6.00" / 152 mm    2.25" / 57 mm        3.00" / 76 mm
    2nd:    1.50" / 38 mm    1.00" / 25 mm        0.50" / 13 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
    For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.25" / 32 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 4 shafts, 70,000 shp / 52,220 Kw = 31.50 kts
    Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 1,670 tons

Complement:
    427 - 556

Cost:
    £2.833 million / $11.334 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 576 tons, 7.1 %
       - Guns: 576 tons, 7.1 %
    Armour: 1,307 tons, 16.1 %
       - Belts: 437 tons, 5.4 %
       - Armament: 202 tons, 2.5 %
       - Armour Deck: 658 tons, 8.1 %
       - Conning Tower: 11 tons, 0.1 %
    Machinery: 2,179 tons, 26.8 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,223 tons, 39.7 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,228 tons, 15.1 %
    Miscellaneous weights: -390 tons, -4.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      9,945 lbs / 4,511 Kg = 38.8 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
    Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
    Roll period: 14.4 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.475 / 0.486
    Length to Beam Ratio: 9.92 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 23.88 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.60 degrees
    Stern overhang: -1.50 ft / -0.46 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,     Aft end
       - Forecastle:    19.00 %,  27.25 ft / 8.31 m,  21.50 ft / 6.55 m
       - Forward deck:    31.00 %,  21.50 ft / 6.55 m,  17.75 ft / 5.41 m
       - Aft deck:    35.50 %,  17.75 ft / 5.41 m,  17.75 ft / 5.41 m
       - Quarter deck:    14.50 %,  17.75 ft / 5.41 m,  17.75 ft / 5.41 m
       - Average freeboard:        19.48 ft / 5.94 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102.3 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177.5 %
    Waterplane Area: 21,369 Square feet or 1,985 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 505 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0.95
        - Longitudinal: 1.48
        - Overall: 1.00
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Guns:
1st: 8" /50 BL MkVIII
2nd: Based on 4.7" /40 QF HA MkVIII
3rd: 2 pdr MkVIII

Belt armour:
4.0" / 102 mm abreast magazines 25 % length
2.0" / 51 mm abreast engineering spaces
Deck armour:
2.0" / 51 mm

Engine:
70000 shp / 1634 tons = 42.83 shp / ton







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一年服役纪念章

发表于 2024-10-8 11:47 | 显示全部楼层
要不你去试试4炮设计?

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发表于 2024-10-8 11:48 | 显示全部楼层
全齐射,6炮和4炮没区别
半齐射,6炮对4炮,在炮术上也没有质变

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本帖最后由 洗甲板工 于 2024-10-8 22:31 编辑
mirage25 发表于 2024-10-8 11:48
全齐射,6炮和4炮没区别
半齐射,6炮对4炮,在炮术上也没有质变

不会吧。跨射之后代表目标在散布区内,但炮弹在散布区内的落点是随机的,所以这时炮的数目越多打中的几率约大。

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