Scharnhorst made one of the longest hits ever scored by a naval gun on an enemy ship when she struck the British carrier HMS Glorious at approximately 26,465 yards (24,200 m). See the Technical Board essay Longest Gunfire Hit for further details on this action. It had been originally planned to regun the Scharnhorst class with 38 cm guns and then use the surplus 28 cm turrets to arm the first three of a new generation of Panzerschiffes, the "Kreuzer P" class. Additional guns and mountings were to be built to arm additional units of this class. However, all these plans were abandoned at the start of the war. When Gneisenau was disarmed in 1943 following bomb damage, her guns were then used for coastal artillery emplacements. Turret Caesar still remains as a museum exhibit at Austrat (Batterie Oerlandat) which is near Trondheim in Norway. Turret Bruno was used at Fledt, near Bergen. Individual guns from Anton were used in Denmark and the Netherlands. "This 28 cm gun had the same kind of projectiles, more-or-less, as did the guns on the Bismarck and Hipper; the Psgr.m.K. L/4,4 AP rounds, scaled to the 28.3 cm size from the 38 cm and 20.3 cm size, respectively. The 28 cm SAP round was similar to the 38 cm round, but the 28 cm size did not have the light AP cap used with the 38 cm projectile. This was perhaps because the Germans knew that the French were using KC armor for their new BB and BC turret roofs, so the Germans designed their 38 cm SAP projectile to defeat this armor at long range, reserving the 38 cm AP projectile for closer ranges where penetration of the main side armor was possible. A 28 cm SAP design of this kind would be too small to penetrate this kind of armor." -- Nathan Okun Constructed of A tube, loose liner, two-part shrunk-on jacket, a breech end piece was screwed on hot to the jacket, and a breech block supporting piece was screwed into the breech end-piece. The breech block was a horizontal sliding type. The Netherlands Navy planned to use a very similar 28 cm gun for their never-built "Design 1047" Battlecruisers. All German 28 cm guns had an actual bore diameter of 28.3 cm (11.1"). |
![]() Forward 28 cm turrets of Scharnhorst
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Designation | 28 cm/54.5 (11") SK C/34 |
Ship Class Used On | Scharnhorst and Kreuzer "P" classes |
Date Of Design | 1934 |
Date In Service | 1938 |
Gun Weight | including breech 111,739.6 lbs (53,250 kg) |
Gun Length oa | 607 in (154.415 m) |
Bore Length | 571.1 in (14.505 m) |
Rifling Length | 461.6 in (11.725 m) |
Number Of Grooves | (80) 0.128 in deep x 0.265 in (3.25 mm x 6.72 mm) |
Lands | 0.173 in (4.4 mm) |
Twist | Increasing RH 1 in 50 to 1 in 35 |
Chamber Volume | 10,984 in3 (180 dm3) |
Rate Of Fire | 3.5 rounds per minute |
Type | Cartridge - Bag |
Projectile Types and Weights | APC L/4,4 - 727.5 lbs. (330 kg)
HE L/4,4 base fuze - 694.4 lbs. (315 kg) HE L/4,5 nose fuze - 694.4 lbs. (315 kg) |
Bursting Charge | APC L/4,4 - 14.55 lbs. (7.84 kg)
HE L/4,4 base fuze - 35.27 lbs. (16.0 kg) HE L/4,5 nose fuze - 48.06 lbs. (21.8 kg) |
Projectile Length | APC L/4,4 - 49.0 in (124.5 cm)
HE L/4,4 base fuze - 49.0 in (124.5 cm) HE L/4,5 nose fuze - 50.1 in (127.3 cm) |
Propellant Charge | Fore: 93.7 lbs. (42.5 kg) RPC/38
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Main: 168.6 lbs. (76.5 kg) RPC/38 (15/4.9) Total main cartridge weight: 273.4 lbs. (124 kg) |
Muzzle Velocity | APC - 2,920 fps (890 mps)
Others - N/A |
Working Pressure | 20.3 tons/in2 (3,200 kg/cm2) |
Approximate Barrel Life | 300 rounds |
Ammunition stowage per gun | 150 rounds (see note 2) |
Notes:
1) These guns, like most large caliber German guns, used a "fore charge" which was propellant in a silk bag, and a "main charge" which was propellant in a brass case. The brass case helped to seal the breech of the gun. 2) This is the design figure. "German Warships 1815-1945" says that the actual outfit ranged from 105 to 150 rounds. 3) Fore and Main charges were rammed together. 4) APC and HE ballistic caps had a radius of 10 calibers. 5) Actual Projectile designations were
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2.0 degrees |
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4.3 degrees |
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7.4 degrees |
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11.3 degrees |
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16.2 degrees |
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22.0 degrees |
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29.2 degrees |
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38.2 degrees |
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40.0 degrees |
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Range |
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0 yards (0 m) |
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8,640 yards (7,900 m) |
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16,514 yards (15,100 m) |
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20,013 yards (18,288 m) |
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30,000 yards (27,432 m) |
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Note: The above information is from "Battleships: Axis and Neutral Battleships in World War Two" for a muzzle velocity of 2,920 fps (890 mps) and is based upon the USN Empirical Formula for Armor Penetration. |
Range |
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10,936 yards (10,000 m) |
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16,404 yards (15,000 m) |
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21,872 yards (20,000 m) |
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27,340 yards (25,000 m) |
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Note: The above information is from "German Capital Ships of World War Two." The data is based upon the pre-war Krupp test shoots on their range in Meppen with L/4,4 APC projectiles using RPC/32 propellant against KC-type armor at an impact angle of 70 degrees. It should be noted that RPC/32 propellant was replaced by the more powerful RPC/38 type which was the only propellant used in World War II. |
Designation
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Three-gun Turrets
Scharnhorst (3) and Kreuzer P [first three units] (2): Drh LC/34 Kreuzer P [follow on units] (2): N/A |
Weight | 1,653,467 lbs (750,000 kg) |
Elevation | A and C turrets: -8 / +40 degrees
B turret: -9 / +40 degrees |
Elevation Rate | 8 degrees per second |
Train | about +150 / -150 degrees |
Train Rate | 7.2 degrees per second |
Gun recoil | N/A |
Loading Angle | +2 degrees |
Note: The first three units of the Kreuzer P class were to re-use mountings from the Scharnhorst class. Other proposals saw new three-gun mountings being built that reverted to the same level of armor protection as those in the Graf Spee class. In May 1939 plans were made to complete twelve of these ships between 1943 and 1948 but none were actually laid down. |
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