In 1930 the Soviet Navy purchased 10 twin mounts from Italy which were installed on the light cruisers Chervona Ukraina and Krasny Kavkaz. These were known in Russia as "Minizini" after the mount's designer, Commander Minisini. Sources differ, but these guns or a close variation with a 4" (10.2 cm) bore rather than a 100 mm (3.9") bore were used on the Argentine cruisers of the Veinticinco de Mayo class. Nomenclature note: The lengths of these guns were almost identical, the differences as noted in their designations was strictly the result of the way each nation measured barrel length. See "Definitions and Information about Naval Guns" for further information. |
![]() 10 cm/50 guns on Austrian-Hungarian cruiser
SMS Saida
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Designation | Austria-Hungary: 10 cm/50 (3.9")
K10 and K11
Italy: 100 mm/47 (3.9") Models 1924, 1927 and 1928 Russia: 100 mm/50 (3.9") "Minizini" |
Ship Class Used On | Austria-Hungary: Helgoland, Saida
and Tatra classes
Italy: Cesare, Trento, Zara and all Condotteri classes, San Giorgio as rearmed Russia: Chervona Ukraina and Krasny Kavkaz |
Date of Design | Skoda: 1910
OTO: 1924, 1927 and 1928 |
Date In Service | Austria-Hungary: 1912
Italy: 1919 (war prizes), 1930 (OTO production) Russia: 1930 |
Gun Weight | Austria-Hungary: 4,453 lbs. (2,020
kg)
Italian: 4,800 lbs. (2,177 kg) Russian version: 4,894 lbs. (2,220 kg) |
Gun Length oa | Austria-Hungary: N/A
Italian: 196.3 in (4.985 m) Russian: 196.85 in (5.000 m) |
Bore Length | Austria-Hungary: N/A
Italian: 185.0 in (4.700 m) Russian: 184.8 in (4.694 m) |
Rifling Length | Russian: 148.9 in (3.782 m)
Others: N/A |
Grooves | 26 |
Lands | N/A |
Twist | N/A |
Chamber Volume | 473.5 in3 (7,760 cm3) |
Rate Of Fire | Austria-Hungary and Italy: 8 - 10
rounds per minute
Russia: 12 rounds per minute |
Note: Although the numbers given above for the Russian version of this weapon are slightly different, I would tend to believe that both these and the Italian guns would be identical. |
Type | Fixed |
Complete Round Weight | Austria-Hungary: 57.7 lbs. (26.2
kg)
Italian: HE - 57.3 lbs. (26.0 kg) Russian:
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Projectile Types and Weights | Austria-Hungary: 30.3 lbs. (13.75
kg)
Italian: HE - 30.4 lbs. (13.8 kg) Russian
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Bursting Charge | Austria-Hungary - N/A
Italian - N/A Russian
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Projectile Length | Austria-Hungary: N/A
Italian: N/A - Complete Round 47.2 in (1.2 m) Russian
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Propellant Charge | Austria-Hungary: 14.6 lbs. (6.6
kg) RP
Italian: 11.0 lbs. (5.0 kg) Russian
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Muzzle Velocity | Austria-Hungary: 2,887 fps (880
mps)
Italy: 2,790 fps (850 mps) Russian
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Working Pressure | Russian: 17.8 tons/in2 (2,800 kg/cm2) |
Approximate Barrel Life | Russian: 500 rounds |
Ammunition stowage per gun | Italian da Barbiano class
Peace: 400 rounds War: 600 rounds Others: N/A |
Elevation | With 30.3 lbs. (13.75 kg) Austria-Hungary HE shell |
Range @ 14 degrees | About 12,030 yards (11,000 m) |
Elevation | With 30.4 lbs (13.8 kg) Italian HE shell |
Range @ 45 degrees | 16,670 yards (15,240 m) |
AA Ceiling | About 33,000 feet (10,000 m) |
Elevation | With 34.83 lbs. (15.8 kg) Russian HE mod 1915 |
Max Range | 20,280 yards (18,546 m) |
Elevation | With 34.83 lbs. (15.8 kg) Russian HE mod 1928 |
Max Range | 21,400 yards (19570 m) |
Designation
(see Notes) |
Austria-Hungary - Single Mounts
Helgoland (9), Saida (9) and Tatra (2) Italy - Twin Mounts
Soviet Union - "Minizini" Twin Mounts
Argentina - Twin Mounts
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Weight | Single Mounts: 7.1 tons (7.24 mt)
Twin Mounts: 14.8 tons (15.0 mt) |
Elevation | Austria-Hungary: -4 / +18 degrees
Italian: -5 / +85 degrees Russian: -5 / +78 degrees |
Elevation Rate | Russian: 7 degrees per second
Others: N/A |
Train | 360 degrees |
Train Rate | Russian: 13 degrees per second
Others: N/A |
Gun recoil | Russian: 22.84 - 23.62 in (58 -
60 cm)
Others: N/A |
Loading Angle | Any |
Notes:
1) Italian heavy cruisers had their two after mountings removed in 1937 and replaced by twin 37 mm/54 mountings. 2) After Chervona Ukrania was sunk in November 1941, two of her 100 mm (3.9") mounts were fitted to Krasnyi Kavkaz during a refit in the autumn of 1942. 3) These mounts could be loaded at any angle by having the cradle trunnions automatically change position such that the breech remained at about the same height. Although a technical marvel, this slowed the elevation speed and made it difficult for the gun to follow a fast-moving aircraft. As a result, these weapons were generally limited to firing barrage patterns. |