1940年的"battleship of the future"

lse

70000T
252000hp,6軸
18x 14" Gun

seven_nana

那个设在舷侧的两用排气管，干啥用的？能当TDS用？没看明白

另外一艘船用3种不同的主炮炮塔，4联3联2联都有，真扯淡啊

f451

说不出的感觉，是在可惜么。。。

f451

烟道TDS设计听巧妙的，但是有啥用么。。。没看出能节省重量啊，虽然考虑到海水倒灌而设计成折线型，还是感觉不靠谱啊

zbzb

为什么偶只看到红叉叉！

Zichuan

seven_nana 发表于 2012-9-24 09:59
那个设在舷侧的两用排气管，干啥用的？能当TDS用？没看明白

另外一艘船用3种不同的主炮炮塔，4联3联2联都 ...

类似于日本的勺型艏，看那个意思是说，鱼雷打到那去会被引导着从舰底划过。。。。好扯淡啊。。。

hsz225

只想到两个字来形容 “摩登”

kimgo

对于大型战列舰而言，主炮塔采用不同的联装形式不是设计上的难点，没有哪个国家在这方面头疼--除非早期摸索阶段。成本上也不多几个钱，反正这么大的主炮系统没几个谈得上批量概念，基本上算是不同组合设计而已。选择在战术理念、船体设计，不是技术问题。

superslyph

这就是传说中的“然后……就没有然后”了吗？

Henschel

舰体尾部排烟。。。。。这不是被否定的技术吗。。。。

saibaby

第3层的那座2连取消了吧。
把仲部的那个换成4联

zhoufengt

削减主炮和主炮塔数量，增大主炮口径会比较好。
70000吨的排水量才配14英寸的主炮太浪费了，主炮最少也要>16英寸。

lse

下面小圖的船較合理

鸿蒙教主

楼主阁下...为什么是红叉叉...

lse

鸿蒙教主 发表于 2012-9-26 23:57
楼主阁下...为什么是红叉叉...

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lse

http://www.warships.com.cn/thread-3924-1-1.html






1940年的"battleship of the future", United Kingom Battleship laid down 1940

Displacement:
        69,719 t light; 73,241 t standard; 75,916 t normal; 78,057 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
        (995.00 ft / 984.25 ft) x 131.23 ft x (36.09 / 36.90 ft)
        (303.28 m / 300.00 m) x 40.00 m  x (11.00 / 11.25 m)

Armament:
      20 - 14.02" / 356 mm 55.0 cal guns - 1,485.94lbs / 674.01kg shells, 90 per gun
          Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
          4 x Quad mounts on centreline, evenly spread
                2 raised mounts
          2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
                2 double raised mounts
      24 - 5.12" / 130 mm 55.0 cal guns - 72.36lbs / 32.82kg shells, 300 per gun
          Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
          12 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
                4 raised mounts
      16 - 4.72" / 120 mm 55.0 cal guns - 56.91lbs / 25.81kg shells, 450 per gun
          Anti-air guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1940 Model
          8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
                8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 32,366 lbs / 14,681 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:                Width (max)        Length (avg)                Height (avg)
        Main:        14.2" / 360 mm        639.76 ft / 195.00 m        18.04 ft / 5.50 m
        Ends:        Unarmoured
          Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
                4.92" / 125 mm        639.76 ft / 195.00 m        33.14 ft / 10.10 m
        Beam between torpedo bulkheads 111.55 ft / 34.00 m

   - Gun armour:        Face (max)        Other gunhouse (avg)        Barbette/hoist (max)
        Main:        16.5" / 420 mm        6.89" / 175 mm                12.8" / 325 mm
        2nd:        1.97" / 50 mm        0.98" / 25 mm                1.97" / 50 mm
        3rd:        0.98" / 25 mm        0.98" / 25 mm                1.97" / 50 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
        For and Aft decks: 6.89" / 175 mm

Machinery:
        Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
        Geared drive, 4 shafts, 259,766 shp / 193,785 Kw = 31.95 kts
        Range 14,000nm at 10.00 kts
        Bunker at max displacement = 4,816 tons

Complement:
        2,286 - 2,972

Cost:
        £42.649 million / $170.597 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
        Armament: 6,946 tons, 9.1 %
           - Guns: 6,946 tons, 9.1 %
        Armour: 26,606 tons, 35.0 %
           - Belts: 6,971 tons, 9.2 %
           - Torpedo bulkhead: 3,860 tons, 5.1 %
           - Armament: 6,169 tons, 8.1 %
           - Armour Deck: 9,606 tons, 12.7 %
        Machinery: 6,946 tons, 9.1 %
        Hull, fittings & equipment: 29,222 tons, 38.5 %
        Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6,197 tons, 8.2 %
        Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
        Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
          93,747 lbs / 42,523 Kg = 68.1 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 17.3 torpedoes
        Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
        Metacentric height 9.5 ft / 2.9 m
        Roll period: 17.9 seconds
        Steadiness        - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 45 %
                        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
        Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.79

Hull form characteristics:
        Hull has a flush deck,
          a normal bow and a cruiser stern
        Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.570 / 0.573
        Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
        'Natural speed' for length: 31.37 kts
        Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
        Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
        Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
        Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
        Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                                Fore end,         Aft end
           - Forecastle:        20.00 %,  29.53 ft / 9.00 m,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m
           - Forward deck:        30.00 %,  22.97 ft / 7.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
           - Aft deck:        35.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
           - Quarter deck:        15.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
           - Average freeboard:                21.36 ft / 6.51 m
        Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
        Space        - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.6 %
                - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.5 %
        Waterplane Area: 91,852 Square feet or 8,533 Square metres
        Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
        Structure weight / hull surface area: 298 lbs/sq ft or 1,454 Kg/sq metre
        Hull strength (Relative):
                - Cross-sectional: 1.22
                - Longitudinal: 0.98
                - Overall: 1.03
        Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
        Excellent accommodation and workspace room
        Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

Warning: Armour too thick for type - 3rd Battery

小胡子

以后这样的纯SPS内容尽量少发

lse

小胡子 发表于 2012-9-27 10:18
以后这样的纯SPS内容尽量少发

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