【新架空活动】法兰西的快速舰队
本帖最后由 go229 于 2010-12-20 20:56 编辑根据架空条约，法兰西此时可造战列舰11万吨，重巡8.25万吨，轻巡5.5万吨，驱逐舰2.4万吨。
计划造3.7万吨级战巡3艘，1.8万吨级重巡3艘，1.4万吨级殖民地重巡2艘，1万吨级轻巡3艘，3100吨级殖民地轻巡8艘，2500吨级超级驱逐舰9艘，1300吨特设殖民地驱逐舰1艘，2.75万吨航母2艘，8000吨级小型航母1艘。
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疯狂的快速战舰：狄德罗级战巡，共计三艘：狄德罗号、伏尔泰号、康道塞号。放弃舷侧防护，主要依赖穹甲防护，总计150毫米的侧甲加上170毫米的多层穹甲可以防御406毫米炮在正常交战距离的攻击。本级舰主要依靠高航速与50倍406炮和敌人远程炮战。狄德罗级战列巡洋舰, 法国
战列巡洋舰 laid down 1924Displacement:
34,514 t light; 36,953 t standard; 40,351 t normal; 43,069 t full loadDimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(804.59 ft / 787.40 ft) x 104.99 ft x (30.18 / 31.77 ft)
(245.24 m / 240.00 m) x 32.00 mx (9.20 / 9.68 m)Armament: 8 - 15.98" / 406 mm 50.0 cal guns - 2,161.70lbs / 980.53kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
2 x 4 row quad mounts on centreline, evenly spread 12 - 5.12" / 130 mm 65.0 cal guns - 74.32lbs / 33.71kg shells, 250 per gun
Anti-air guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
2 x 3-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft 36 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
12 x 3-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread 40 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
10 x 4 row quad mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 18,266 lbs / 8,285 kgArmour: - Belts:
Width (max)
Length (avg)
Height (avg)
Main:
5.91" / 150 mm
492.13 ft / 150.00 m
19.69 ft / 6.00 m
Ends:
2.36" / 60 mm
295.28 ft / 90.00 m
6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Main Belt covers 96% of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spacesMain Belt inclined 15.00 degrees (positive = in) - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
2.36" / 60 mm
492.13 ft / 150.00 m
29.53 ft / 9.00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 45.93 ft / 14.00 m - Hull void:
0.00" / 0 mm
0.00 ft / 0.00 m
0.00 ft / 0.00 m - Gun armour:
Face (max)
Other gunhouse (avg)
Barbette/hoist (max)
Main:
15.7" / 400 mm
7.87" / 200 mm
13.4" / 340 mm
2nd:
5.91" / 150 mm
3.94" / 100 mm
3.94" / 100 mm
3rd:
0.79" / 20 mm
4th:
0.79" / 20 mm - Protected deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 6.69" / 170 mm
Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mmQuarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm - Conning towers: Forward 14.17" / 360 mm, Aft 7.87" / 200 mmMachinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 141,932 shp / 105,881 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 6,116 tonsComplement:
1,423 - 1,850Cost:
£9.890 million / $39.561 millionDistribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4,194 tons, 10.4%
- Guns: 4,194 tons, 10.4%
Armour: 12,676 tons, 31.4%
- Belts: 2,631 tons, 6.5%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,270 tons, 3.1%
- Armament: 2,097 tons, 5.2%
- Armour Deck: 6,118 tons, 15.2%
- Conning Towers: 559 tons, 1.4%
Machinery: 3,566 tons, 8.8%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,979 tons, 34.6%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,837 tons, 14.5%
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.2%
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- Hull void weights: 20 tons
- Hull above water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
- Above deck: 20 tonsOverall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
58,693 lbs / 26,623 Kg = 28.7 x 16.0 " / 406 mm shells or 8.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 7.3 ft / 2.2 m
Roll period: 16.3 seconds
Steadiness
- As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 1.25Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.566 / 0.574
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.38 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end,
Aft end
- Forecastle:
30.00%,29.20 ft / 8.90 m,24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forward deck:
40.00%,24.93 ft / 7.60 m,24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Aft deck:
15.00%,16.40 ft / 5.00 m,16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck:
15.00%,16.40 ft / 5.00 m,16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard:
22.89 ft / 6.98 m
Ship tends to be wet forwardShip space, strength and comments:
Space
- Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 167.5%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 181.6%
Waterplane Area: 60,022 Square feet or 5,576 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 210 lbs/sq ft or 1,024 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.18
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
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1.8万吨级重巡，共计三艘：迪凯纳号，福煦号，克里蒙梭号。配有内倾10度的装甲带，90毫米的穹甲分两层，第一层30毫米，第二层60毫米，穹甲斜面75度，其核心舱垂直防护甚至高于衣阿华级，水平防护亦很可观。60倍240毫米炮可以有效威胁战列舰的副炮及上层建筑，必要时可以加入战列线作战。迪凯纳级重巡洋舰, 法国
重巡洋舰 laid down 1925Displacement:
17,131 t light; 17,986 t standard; 20,142 t normal; 21,867 t full loadDimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(703.90 ft / 688.98 ft) x 91.86 ft x (22.97 / 24.38 ft)
(214.55 m / 210.00 m) x 28.00 mx (7.00 / 7.43 m)Armament: 8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 60.0 cal guns - 462.00lbs / 209.56kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
2 x 4 row quad mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
1 raised mount 9 - 5.12" / 130 mm 65.0 cal guns - 74.32lbs / 33.71kg shells, 250 per gun
Anti-air guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 x 3-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward 27 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
9 x 3-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread 32 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
8 x 4 row quad mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 4,426 lbs / 2,008 kgArmour: - Belts:
Width (max)
Length (avg)
Height (avg)
Main:
5.91" / 150 mm
459.32 ft / 140.00 m
17.06 ft / 5.20 m
Ends:
Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 103% of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
Main Belt inclined 10.00 degrees (positive = in) - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
1.18" / 30 mm
459.32 ft / 140.00 m
22.97 ft / 7.00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 39.37 ft / 12.00 m - Hull void:
0.00" / 0 mm
0.00 ft / 0.00 m
0.00 ft / 0.00 m - Gun armour:
Face (max)
Other gunhouse (avg)
Barbette/hoist (max)
Main:
9.84" / 250 mm
4.72" / 120 mm
8.66" / 220 mm
2nd:
5.91" / 150 mm
3.94" / 100 mm
3.94" / 100 mm
3rd:
0.79" / 20 mm
4th:
0.79" / 20 mm - Protected deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3.54" / 90 mm - Conning towers: Forward 9.84" / 250 mm, Aft 3.94" / 100 mmMachinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 113,218 shp / 84,460 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,881 tonsComplement:
844 - 1,098Cost:
£4.965 million / $19.858 millionDistribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,666 tons, 8.3%
- Guns: 1,666 tons, 8.3%
Armour: 5,513 tons, 27.4%
- Belts: 1,951 tons, 9.7%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 461 tons, 2.3%
- Armament: 811 tons, 4.0%
- Armour Deck: 2,070 tons, 10.3%
- Conning Towers: 220 tons, 1.1%
Machinery: 2,572 tons, 12.8%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,280 tons, 36.1%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,011 tons, 14.9%
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.5%
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- Hull void weights: 20 tons
- Hull above water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
- Above deck: 20 tonsOverall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
32,819 lbs / 14,886 Kg = 77.8 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 5.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
Metacentric height 6.1 ft / 1.8 m
Roll period: 15.7 seconds
Steadiness
- As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.26
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 1.04Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and small transom stere
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.485 / 0.496
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.58 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end,
Aft end
- Forecastle:
30.00%,22.97 ft / 7.00 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Forward deck:
30.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Aft deck:
25.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Quarter deck:
15.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Average freeboard:
17.77 ft / 5.42 m
Ship tends to be wet forwardShip space, strength and comments:
Space
- Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 158.4%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 164.0%
Waterplane Area: 42,591 Square feet or 3,957 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 149 lbs/sq ft or 727 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.01
- Longitudinal: 1.00
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
殖民地重巡洋舰：印度支那号、阿尔及利亚号。1.423万吨。远东殖民地专用。
印度支那级殖民地重巡洋舰, 法国 殖民地重巡洋舰 laid down 1923Displacement:
13,462 t light; 14,237 t standard; 16,146 t normal; 17,672 t full loadDimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(687.49 ft / 672.57 ft) x 88.58 ft x (22.97 / 24.38 ft)
(209.55 m / 205.00 m) x 27.00 mx (7.00 / 7.43 m)Armament:
8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 60.0 cal guns - 462.00lbs / 209.56kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
2 x 4 row quad mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
9 - 5.12" / 130 mm 65.0 cal guns - 74.32lbs / 33.71kg shells, 250 per gun
Anti-air guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
1 x 3-gun mount on centreline, aft deck aft
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 x 3-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward
27 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
9 x 3-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
36 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
9 x 4 row quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 4,427 lbs / 2,008 kgArmour:
- Belts:Width (max) Length (avg)Height (avg)
Main: 2.76" / 70 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98% of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
Main Belt inclined 10.00 degrees (positive = in) - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1.18" / 30 mm 426.51 ft / 130.00 m 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 36.09 ft / 11.00 m - Hull void:
0.00" / 0 mm 0.00 ft / 0.00 m 0.00 ft / 0.00 m - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 2.76" / 70 mm3.94" / 100 mm
2nd: 3.94" / 100 mm 2.76" / 70 mm2.76" / 70 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - - - Protected deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3.15" / 80 mm - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 3.94" / 100 mmMachinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 106,180 shp / 79,210 Kw= 32.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,435 tonsComplement:
716 - 931Cost:
£4.030 million / $16.121 millionDistribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,666 tons, 10.3%
- Guns: 1,666 tons, 10.3%
Armour: 3,354 tons, 20.8%
- Belts: 653 tons, 4.0%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 428 tons, 2.7%
- Armament: 409 tons, 2.5%
- Armour Deck: 1,702 tons, 10.5%
- Conning Towers: 163 tons, 1.0%
Machinery: 2,549 tons, 15.8%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,793 tons, 35.9%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,684 tons, 16.6%
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0.6%
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- Hull void weights: 20 tons
- Hull above water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
- Above deck: 20 tonsOverall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
23,365 lbs / 10,598 Kg = 55.4 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 3.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 6.5 ft / 2.0 m
Roll period: 14.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 1.10Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a straight bulbous bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.413 / 0.426
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.59 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.41 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end,Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00%,22.97 ft / 7.00 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Forward deck: 40.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Aft deck: 20.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Average freeboard:17.53 ft / 5.34 m
Ship tends to be wet forwardShip space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 205.5%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171.6%
Waterplane Area: 37,811 Square feet or 3,513 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 116%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 704 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.13
- Overall: 1.00
Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platformWarning: Armour too thick for type - 2nd Battery 小型化的殖民地舰艇：公爵级3100吨轻巡洋舰，8艘。公爵级殖民地轻巡洋舰, 法国 殖民地轻巡洋舰 laid down 1923Displacement:
2,942 t light; 3,094 t standard; 3,363 t normal; 3,578 t full loadDimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(498.34 ft / 488.85 ft) x 39.37 ft x (13.12 / 13.71 ft)
(151.89 m / 149.00 m) x 12.00 mx (4.00 / 4.18 m)Armament: 6 - 6.10" / 155 mm 60.0 cal guns - 124.45lbs / 56.45kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
1 x 2 row twin mount on centreline, forward deck aft
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread 12 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1922 Model
4 x 3-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread 16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
4 x 4 row quad mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 774 lbs / 351 kg Main Torpedoes 5 - 25.6" / 650 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 2.437 t each, 12.186 t total
In 5 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubesArmour: - Belts:
Width (max)
Length (avg)
Height (avg)
Main:
2.36" / 60 mm
295.28 ft / 90.00 m
9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends:
Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 93% of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces - Hull void:
0.00" / 0 mm
0.00 ft / 0.00 m
0.00 ft / 0.00 m - Gun armour:
Face (max)
Other gunhouse (avg)
Barbette/hoist (max)
Main:
1.97" / 50 mm
1.18" / 30 mm
1.97" / 50 mm
2nd:
0.79" / 20 mm
-
-
3rd:
0.79" / 20 mm
-
- - Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 1.18" / 30 mmMachinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 56,523 shp / 42,166 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 3,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 483 tonsComplement:
220 - 287Cost:
£1.036 million / $4.142 millionDistribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 192 tons, 5.7%
- Guns: 177 tons, 5.3%
- Weapons: 15 tons, 0.5%
Armour: 558 tons, 16.6%
- Belts: 279 tons, 8.3%
- Armament: 36 tons, 1.1%
- Armour Deck: 228 tons, 6.8%
- Conning Towers: 15 tons, 0.5%
Machinery: 1,457 tons, 43.3%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 684 tons, 20.4%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 421 tons, 12.5%
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 1.5%
- Hull below water: 10 tons
- Hull void weights: 10 tons
- Hull above water: 10 tons
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 10 tonsOverall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
807 lbs / 366 Kg = 7.1 x 6.1 " / 155 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 13.5 seconds
Steadiness
- As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 68 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 0.77Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.466 / 0.474
Length to Beam Ratio: 12.42 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 88
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end,
Aft end
- Forecastle:
20.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,13.78 ft / 4.20 m
- Forward deck:
20.00%,13.78 ft / 4.20 m,13.78 ft / 4.20 m
- Aft deck:
45.00%,9.19 ft / 2.80 m,9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Quarter deck:
15.00%,9.19 ft / 2.80 m,9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Average freeboard:
11.29 ft / 3.44 m
Ship tends to be wet forwardShip space, strength and comments:
Space
- Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 155.6%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114.3%
Waterplane Area: 12,734 Square feet or 1,183 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 80%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 201 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.63
- Longitudinal: 0.48
- Overall: 0.51
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather 楼主，我真不知道你的150MM装甲加170MM穹甲凭啥能防406？而且穹甲本身就已经是过时的设计了:L。至于火炮布局选用2*4。感觉在海军假日后的新造战舰上，2*4是最糟糕的布局了。 期待LZ的具体图，一大票英文看着有些头晕:dizzy:
偶英语最菜了的说~:L 虽然看的懂，但见到一老坨鹰文还是很蛋疼的说:dizzy:
此外，图才是关键:lol
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装甲布置方式无所谓过时与否，只有取舍不同。当年铁甲舰时代的铁甲堡设计其实就是原始版本的装甲盒布置，后来不是又有了全面防护理念了么？穹甲的要义在于穹甲暨参与水平防护又参与垂直防护，这是穹甲的优势。170的甲分两层，第一层50毫米，第二层120毫米（穹甲边缘倾斜部分厚度150加15度倾角），外部还有150的侧甲，这种水平的防护在典型交战距离防住406还是不成问题的。
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恰恰是法国人的黎塞留上的4联炮塔获得了最佳的生存力，只是两两共鞍的布置有些杯具，不过这些并不难改进。 9楼：穹甲最大的问题就是效率低。如果效率高的话，2战海军强国没有必要不采用。装甲盒才是主流。同等吨位下装甲盒防御高于穹甲是无容置疑的。如果你的穹甲防御高于装甲盒的话就肯定是数据问题。至于你那个标准拦406？你拦的是纳尔逊的406吧？ 另外，你的2*4是吗意思？双联4坐？还是4联2坐？如果是主教的布置方式倒是不错 至于你说能挡住406，好吧，咋就那首相的炮来说事吧，看论坛中首相的18000穿深420MM，如果垂直入射抛去你的150MM外甲，还有270MM的穿深。你咋防？？而且首相的炮在2战15寸新炮中是最次的！！！这都不行，你拿啥防406？？ 本帖最后由 go229 于 2010-12-22 12:42 编辑
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其实穹甲的防护效率很高，但是却挤占空间，因此只有大舰才用得起。150侧甲加15度倾斜的150穹甲斜面绝对能在正常交战距离防住406（不管是老衲的奶油炮还是美帝的6爷）而相当于170的平甲也能放住406吊射。
另外，老大，您倒是看好啊，那是两座四联装。。。。。。:L:L
4联应该是4*2吧？:funk:
至于防406。你给个图吧。连首相1万8的420穿深都防不住，你拿啥防MK6和MK7。我实在无法想象你的170穹甲要到啥角度才能补偿掉高达270MM的伤害！！而且因为有角度入射，所以你的穹甲的角度要打折扣的。而且这还是1万8的伤害，近点的话，或者换成MK6，削掉主机舱真的没问题啊
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在sps中，前边的数字代表数量，后面的代表联装数:L，所以2乘4是两座四联装:L。
装甲布置类似俾斯麦、o级战巡等典型德国战舰，只不过把舷侧换成150，穹甲边缘换成150罢了。您应该有这方面的图吧。
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现在继续上数据:lol
万吨级轻巡，迪盖.特鲁因级：共三艘，迪盖.特鲁因、普利茅盖特、拉莫特. 毕盖。
拉加利索尼埃级轻巡, 法国 轻巡 laid down 1925
Displacement:
9,679 t light; 10,147 t standard; 11,678 t normal; 12,903 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(658.44 ft / 643.04 ft) x 62.34 ft x (22.97 / 24.61 ft)
(200.69 m / 196.00 m) x 19.00 mx (7.00 / 7.50 m)
Armament:
12 - 6.10" / 155 mm 60.0 cal guns - 124.45lbs / 56.45kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1922 Model
3 x 4 row quad mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm 65.0 cal guns - 39.16lbs / 17.76kg shells, 250 per gun
Anti-air guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1925 Model
2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
2 x 2 row twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
36 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
12 x 3-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
36 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
9 x 4 row quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1,887 lbs / 856 kg
Main Torpedoes
10 - 25.6" / 650 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 2.445 t each, 24.452 t total
In 5 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2.95" / 75 mm 393.70 ft / 120.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 94% of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1.97" / 50 mm 393.70 ft / 120.00 m 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Hull void:
0.00" / 0 mm 0.00 ft / 0.00 m 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 2.36" / 60 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 3.15" / 80 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 106,180 shp / 79,210 Kw= 35.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,756 tons
Complement:
561 - 730
Cost:
£3.094 million / $12.375 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 752 tons, 6.4%
- Guns: 722 tons, 6.2%
- Weapons: 31 tons, 0.3%
Armour: 2,659 tons, 22.8%
- Belts: 471 tons, 4.0%
- Torpedo bulkhead: 659 tons, 5.6%
- Armament: 318 tons, 2.7%
- Armour Deck: 1,089 tons, 9.3%
- Conning Towers: 122 tons, 1.0%
Machinery: 2,638 tons, 22.6%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,550 tons, 30.4%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,999 tons, 17.1%
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 0.7%
- Hull below water: 20 tons
- Hull void weights: 20 tons
- Hull above water: 10 tons
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 20 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
13,995 lbs / 6,348 Kg = 123.2 x 6.1 " / 155 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 15.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 1.10
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle,
a ram bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.444 / 0.458
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.32 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.28 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00%,24.28 ft / 7.40 m,17.06 ft / 5.20 m
- Forward deck: 30.00%,18.37 ft / 5.60 m,18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Aft deck: 35.00%,18.37 ft / 5.60 m,18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00%,18.37 ft / 5.60 m,18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Average freeboard: 18.69 ft / 5.70 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 252.7%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158.9%
Waterplane Area: 26,035 Square feet or 2,419 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 547 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.07
- Overall: 1.00
Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
超级驱逐舰，共计9艘２０年代超驱, 法国 超级驱逐舰 laid down 1925Displacement:
2,376 t light; 2,497 t standard; 2,780 t normal; 3,006 t full loadDimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(468.81 ft / 459.32 ft) x 39.37 ft x (13.12 / 13.81 ft)
(142.89 m / 140.00 m) x 12.00 mx (4.00 / 4.21 m)Armament: 8 - 4.13" / 105 mm 65.0 cal guns - 39.16lbs / 17.76kg shells, 220 per gun
Anti-air guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1924 Model
4 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 raised mounts 15 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
5 x 3-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread 16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
4 x 4 row quad mounts on sides, evenly spread Weight of broadside 347 lbs / 157 kg Main Torpedoes 10 - 25.6" / 650 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 2.445 t each, 24.452 t total
In 5 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubesArmour: - Gun armour:
Face (max)
Other gunhouse (avg)
Barbette/hoist (max)
Main:
1.18" / 30 mm
1.18" / 30 mm
1.18" / 30 mm
2nd:
0.79" / 20 mm
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3rd:
0.79" / 20 mm
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- - Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 0.79" / 20 mmMachinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 74,155 shp / 55,319 Kw = 38.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 509 tonsComplement:
190 - 248Cost:
£1.090 million / $4.362 millionDistribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 173 tons, 6.2%
- Guns: 142 tons, 5.1%
- Weapons: 31 tons, 1.1%
Armour: 73 tons, 2.6%
- Armament: 61 tons, 2.2%
- Conning Towers: 12 tons, 0.4%
Machinery: 1,457 tons, 52.4%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 602 tons, 21.7%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 404 tons, 14.5%
Miscellaneous weights: 70 tons, 2.5%
- Hull below water: 10 tons
- Hull void weights: 10 tons
- Hull above water: 20 tons
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
- Above deck: 10 tonsOverall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
532 lbs / 241 Kg = 15.1 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 1.5 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 13.7 seconds
Steadiness
- As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 0.81Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.410 / 0.421
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 76
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end,
Aft end
- Forecastle:
20.00%,17.06 ft / 5.20 m,15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Forward deck:
30.00%,13.12 ft / 4.00 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Aft deck:
35.00%,13.12 ft / 4.00 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck:
15.00%,13.12 ft / 4.00 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard:
13.67 ft / 4.17 m
Ship tends to be wet forwardShip space, strength and comments:
Space
- Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 186.5%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143.3%
Waterplane Area: 11,454 Square feet or 1,064 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 69%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 37 lbs/sq ft or 179 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.49
- Longitudinal: 0.63
- Overall: 0.50
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather 海军的高速试验舰，远东舰队的斥候快骑：西贡级，设计航速40节，实际试航航速可望达到44节。
西贡级特设殖民地驱逐舰, 法国 特设殖民地驱逐舰 laid down 1923
Displacement:
1,311 t light; 1,343 t standard; 1,463 t normal; 1,560 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(336.86 ft / 328.08 ft) x 29.53 ft x (11.15 / 11.68 ft)
(102.67 m / 100.00 m) x 9.00 mx (3.40 / 3.56 m)
Armament:
2 - 2.99" / 76.0 mm 65.0 cal guns - 14.85lbs / 6.74kg shells, 150 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 13 kg
Main Torpedoes
5 - 25.6" / 650 mm, 26.25 ft / 8.00 m torpedoes - 2.437 t each, 12.186 t total
In 5 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 56,288 shp / 41,991 Kw = 40.00 kts
Range 3,000nm at 14.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 217 tons
Complement:
117 - 153
Cost:
£0.527 million / $2.110 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 24 tons, 1.6%
- Guns: 8 tons, 0.6%
- Weapons: 15 tons, 1.0%
Armour: 2 tons, 0.1%
- Armament: 2 tons, 0.1%
Machinery: 952 tons, 65.0%
Hull, fittings & equipment: 284 tons, 19.4%
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 152 tons, 10.4%
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 3.4%
- Hull below water: 10 tons
- Hull void weights: 10 tons
- Hull above water: 10 tons
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
204 lbs / 92 Kg = 15.2 x 3.0 " / 76 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.60
Metacentric height 1.8 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 9.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 20 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
Seaboat quality(Average = 1.00): 0.12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.474 / 0.483
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.11 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.38 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 74 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end,Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00%,15.09 ft / 4.60 m,13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00%,6.56 ft / 2.00 m,6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Aft deck: 35.00%,6.56 ft / 2.00 m,6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00%,6.56 ft / 2.00 m,6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard:8.03 ft / 2.45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 212.5%
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 66.0%
Waterplane Area: 6,455 Square feet or 600 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 38%
Structure weight / hull surface area: 29 lbs/sq ft or 141 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.54
- Longitudinal: 0.58
- Overall: 0.54
Extremely poor machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability
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我改了一下穹甲布置数据，把穹甲边缘改成了150毫米，这样的话任何406都穿不了了。